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Re: Overpaying Flacco could sink the Ravens
Brees had a rating of over 100 in his third season (2004), and was in the top 10 in passing yards under the same OC, Flacco's highest rating was 93.5 which was ironically in his third season too. Brees was arguably elite under Cam in his last two years before his injury, then he went to NO and cemented his legacy. I can't see Joe doing that, even if he did go and play in a really decent offensive system.
EDIT: My mistake, he wasn't top 10 in yards, but 15th in passing yards. However he had the third highest QB rating in the league that year.
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Re: Overpaying Flacco could sink the Ravens
Roethlisberger had a ring by his second season and had a 15-1 season in his rookie year. If we are going to measure Joe by the wins as many of the apologists do, we should do the same with Ben. Flacco has had good winning success but not as much as what Jen had.
Besides, Jen still had greater statistics early on his career than what Joe has ever had.
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Re: Overpaying Flacco could sink the Ravens
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Re: Overpaying Flacco could sink the Ravens
And yet again, I'm not defending Cam in any way, he is terrible, I was just using it as a a testament if anything to how good Brees is that he could be that efficient under Cam. Joe would obviously be better under a more QB friendly OC, hey lets use Sean Payton as an example, but my argument was simply that I doubt Joe would be AS GOOD as an Aaron Rogers or a Tom Brady that's all. I see Joe on a similar level to Matt Shaubb, and there's nothing wrong with that at all. We just need the team to be more talented around him, which we don't have this season sadly, unlike seasons past.
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12-06-2012, 12:31 AM #103
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Re: Overpaying Flacco could sink the Ravens
Leach stats are subjective. You know that. In Brees best year, the Oakland Raiders and Kansas City Chiefs ranked 30th and 31st in total defense that year. Think about that. A quarter of his schedule came against bottom 5 defenses in the NFL.
You can twist stats any you want. That is why they can not be relied on. The point is QB's do not reach their full potential under Cameron. For as good as Brees was we know now that he was capable of so much more.
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Re: Overpaying Flacco could sink the Ravens
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12-06-2012, 12:35 AM #105
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12-06-2012, 12:43 AM #106
Re: Overpaying Flacco could sink the Ravens
ORLY?
Code:BEN ROETHLISBERGER Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV 2004 22 PIT QB 7 14 13 13-0-0 196 295 66.4 2621 17 5.8 11 3.7 58 8.9 8.4 13.4 187.2 98.1 30 213 7.41 6.93 9.2 5 6 11 2005 23 PIT QB 7 12 12 9-3-0 168 268 62.7 2385 17 6.3 9 3.4 85 8.9 8.7 14.2 198.8 98.6 23 129 7.75 7.53 7.9 2 2 11 2006 24 PIT QB 7 15 15 7-8-0 280 469 59.7 3513 18 3.8 23 4.9 67 7.5 6.1 12.5 234.2 75.4 46 280 6.28 4.97 8.9 2 3 11 2007* 25 PIT QB 7 15 15 10-5-0 264 404 65.3 3154 32 7.9 11 2.7 83 7.8 8.2 11.9 210.3 104.1 47 347 6.22 6.55 10.4 1 2 14 2008 26 PIT QB 7 16 16 12-4-0 281 469 59.9 3301 17 3.6 15 3.2 65 7.0 6.3 11.7 206.3 80.1 46.82 46 284 5.86 5.21 8.9 5 5 5 YR TOT PIT 72 71 51-20-0 1189 1905 62.4 14974 101 5.3 69 3.6 85 7.9 7.3 12.6 208.0 89.4 192 1253 6.54 6.03 9.2 15 18 47 JOE FLACCO Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV 2008 23 BAL QB 5 16 16 11-5-0 257 428 60.0 2971 14 3.3 12 2.8 70 6.9 6.3 11.6 185.7 80.3 43.23 32 276 5.86 5.29 7.0 1 2 11 2009 24 BAL QB 5 16 16 9-7-0 315 499 63.1 3613 21 4.2 12 2.4 72 7.2 7.0 11.5 225.8 88.9 55.03 36 218 6.35 6.12 6.7 1 2 13 2010 25 BAL QB 5 16 16 12-4-0 306 489 62.6 3622 25 5.1 10 2.0 67 7.4 7.5 11.8 226.4 93.6 60.38 40 294 6.29 6.39 7.6 2 4 12 2011 26 BAL QB 5 16 16 12-4-0 312 542 57.6 3610 20 3.7 12 2.2 74 6.7 6.4 11.6 225.6 80.9 59.69 31 203 5.95 5.70 5.4 2 3 12 2012 27 BAL QB 5 12 12 9-3-0 252 426 59.2 3038 15 3.5 8 1.9 54 7.1 7.0 12.1 253.2 85.0 50.81 29 179 6.28 6.15 6.4 3 3 5 YR TOT 76 76 53-23-0 1442 2384 60.5 16854 95 4.0 54 2.3 74 7.1 6.8 11.7 221.8 85.8 168 1170 6.15 5.94 6.6 9 14 48
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Re: Overpaying Flacco could sink the Ravens
Ok then, how about Philip Rivers in his rookie season under Cam (61.5 comp %, 9th in yards, and a rating of 92).
Just reminding you that this year we have played, and will play the following.
KC (16th ranked defense)
Philly (17th ranked defense)
NYG (22nd ranked defense)
Believeland (23rd ranked defense)
NE (26th ranked defense)
Oakland (28th ranked defense)
Deadskins (29th ranked defense)
That seems to be a large portion of our schedule playing some low ranked defenses.
What you also forgot to mention was that Brees didn't have the receiving talent than what Joe has right now.
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