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12-04-2012, 12:28 PM #1Rookie Poster
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Ravens Report Card???
What game was Steve Hasler viewing, that he gave a B- to the Ravens coaching? Ray Rice had only 12 carries and 1 reception - that already raises major questions (plus only 1 reception to TE). Too many passes were long but well covered or out patterns. There was very little use of the MIDDLE
of the field. Crossing patterns, especially with Bolden and Pitta, would have been very dangerous to the Steelers, a la Jerry Rice. That is more the era for Cameron, an out-of-date off. coordinator. Why doesn't he utilize that dangerous attack possibility?
On the defensive side, the Ravens schemes made Charlie Batch, a 3rd string QB, look good. They did not blitz enough, anywhere close to enough, and
they could not cover receivers for the longer time Batch often had to find an open receiver. If the Ravens, attacked Batch with many more blitzes, the
pass defenders could have kept close one-on-one during the shorter time before Batch would have been inundated. The Ravens might have given up a
long gain or two, but would have made the game a nightmare for Batch, forcing costly errors. The Ravens def. schemes made Batch look like a better QB than Flacco.
The aggressive, creative schemes that Rex Ryan used as def. coordinator were very effective for the Ravens, the two replacements have been major
steps backward, as the team defensive stats can show.
Cameron as off. coordinator has been a disapointment throughout. Earlier in his tenure, it could be said that the Ravens had an inexperienced QB and not enough quality weapons, especially speedy WRs. Now, he has an experienced, supposedly quality QB, a great RB, a Great FB, 3 high quality WRs and 2 good, developing TEs. There are no good excuses for not having a high-powered offensive attack every week against every opponent.
Coaching Grade - F
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12-04-2012, 12:34 PM #2Legendary RSR Poster
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I'd say C for coaching, with points taken off for time clock management and not giving Ray the ball enough in the fourth.
The coaches didn't drop five balls, give up 300+ in yardage, sailed balls over Torrey's head or commit rather stupid penalties.
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I say D minus, because I think the approach on D was don't blitz (or much at all) and keep everyone in front of you to avoid big plays and keep it close.
The lack of pressure allowed Charlie Batch to have ALL DAY.
And on offense, someone needs to realize there i a middle of the field and something other than 9 routes.
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12-04-2012, 01:44 PM #4
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I thought the grades for coaching and defense were both very generous. The defense was broken all over the place & Batch missed more opportunities than he took.
As for the coaching, setting aside all the (legitimate) questions about game planning, that costly & boneheaded challenge on the Batch pass was absolutely inexcusable and worth a full grade and a half by itself.
Anything above a C- for coaching is generous, and even at C- I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that some terrible execution clouded what was otherwise occasional good judgment.Festivus
His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.
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Complete and utter nonsense to give the coaching staff anything but an F. Maybe if you put on purple shades his grading system makes sense.
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12-04-2012, 02:50 PM #6Regular 1st Stringer
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I agree.
Its simple... if things aren't working, the coaches need to adjust. Player execution sucked Sunday. There is no sugar coating it. However, our coaches presented the same silly crap they seem to do every game. There are different ways to try to help a struggling quarterback... basically you are seeking routes that he can hit easily to get into rhythm - but instead it seems like one of three routes, deep ball, nine, or dump off.
On defense, again, if a qb is picking you apart, you have to find a way to get pressure - I see NO creativeness on our pash rush most weeks. We either succeed with overpower the OLINE or we don't get pressure. I don't see delayed blitzes, overloads, stunts... It felt like I saw more three man rushes than blitzes on Sunday.
What's up with Sanders having nobody within a mile? If he doesn't fumble that, they probably score another td.
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12-04-2012, 03:00 PM #7
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I would give the offensive coaching a grade of "4th down" due to running pass patterns 3 yards short of a 1st down AND never using the middle of the field. Also, I will give them extra credit for "I can't see from the sideline" what the HELL is happening during the entire game. Maybe Cam will look at game footage during next summer to see what went wrong. No RICE for YOU!
On defense, I will give a NB for NO BLITZING. How about attacking their patchwork of a horrible Oline and 37 year old QB with crossing stunts and overload blitzes to make sure they screw up? How about recognizing from the upper deck that our linebackers were not dropping deep enough in pass coverage? No...hmmm.
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12-04-2012, 03:23 PM #9Regular 1st Stringer
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12-05-2012, 02:16 AM #10Regular 1st Stringer
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I think we held them to under 100 yards in the first half. They took off in the second half. That is coaching, not the players.
Deep passing plays are very low percentage plays, obviously Joe was off sunday with his deep balls. WHY DO YOU KEEP THROWING IT DEEP? Where are the crossing patterns? Outside of the first drive I didnt see any quick slants all day. Where are some WR screens, bunch formations, something over the MIDDLE. We complete 84% of our passes over the middle.
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12-04-2012, 03:52 PM #11Legendary RSR Poster
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.
Coaching only goes so far. Come game time, it's up to the players to perform and this Sundays game, IMO, was a failure of execution than it was a failure of coaching.
Both sides of the coin do deserve their share of the blame, I just don't think coaching was the larger issue on Sunday.Last edited by HoustonRaven; 12-04-2012 at 04:00 PM.
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