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    So the successes are all a function of player talent but the failures are all on the coaches?

    Pass to the left please and please wipe off the drool ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    also this dog house bullshit needs to stop, it was cute for a couple years but now its not putting the best talent on the field to make us succeed consistently.
    And which players are these?




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    isn't it the coaches job to put his players in situation to succeed? Pleas explain with thhe talent or lack there of we have right now are the caoches maximizing it to the best of its ability?




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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    Probably not. But then again, if the Ravens defense was better, I doubt that Batch/Tomlin win, either. Tomlin and Harbaugh are in completely different scenarios with where there teams are at in terms of injuries and strengths/weaknesses.

    Put another way, when both teams were at full strength, Harbaugh has won his fair share of games with Tomlin.
    Again, I posed that scenario to illustrate what I believe to be the difference between the two coaches. Tomlin, when his team was backed into a corner, down to the third string quarterback, on the road against a bitter division rival and having just lost to said team two weeks prior, found a way to win. I don't think Harbaugh would have been able to do the same thing.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    And which players are these?
    Mckinney needs to start at LT its a better option that Oher, which would free KO to LG and Oher back at RT the strength of KO would help Birk tremendously along with yanda.




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    Re: John Harbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    Too bad his record doesn't reflect it...
    You mean record, as in two Super Bowl appearances? THAT record?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    You mean record, as in two Super Bowl appearances? THAT record?
    I wasn't aware that Tomlin won 2 Super Bowls with third string players.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    So the successes are all a function of player talent but the failures are all on the coaches?

    Pass to the left please and please wipe off the drool ....
    I am not sure who you were referring this to; nonetheless, I believed that I acknowledged some of the coaches?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    Again, I posed that scenario to illustrate what I believe to be the difference between the two coaches. Tomlin, when his team was backed into a corner, down to the third string quarterback, on the road against a bitter division rival and having just lost to said team two weeks prior, found a way to win. I don't think Harbaugh would have been able to do the same thing.
    Harbaugh, with a team with a rookie QB and the most players on IR in the league, led his team to the AFC Championship game. On the whole thats a lot more impressive than one 3-point victory.

    Tomlin clearly has the hardware to back up his skills but damn sometimes Ravens fans have short memories.
    Last edited by s.r.genovese; 12-04-2012 at 03:46 PM.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Thoughts View Post
    I am not sure who you were referring this to; nonetheless, I believed that I acknowledged some of the coaches?
    I wasn't addressing it to any one member.
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    I'm not on board with firing Harbs i think he's a good coach, but he's about as flexible as our " in game adjustments" like the our two numb nuts coordinators. He needs to accept certain things and stop trying to go with things that are not natural.




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    Billick moment??? There is only one Billick moment, that was him raising the Lombardi.

    Something our JV Head Coach will never do.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    Mckinney needs to start at LT its a better option that Oher, which would free KO to LG and Oher back at RT the strength of KO would help Birk tremendously along with yanda.
    Have you seen McKinnie's effort when he has actually seen the fieid?

    He's whiffed on more blocks more often than Mark Reynolds whiffed on breaking balls this summer.

    Sorry, but I have to disagree here. McKinnie of last year, I would agree. McKinnie of this year, no chance. He's basically already checked out for the season.
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    Re: John Harbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by s.r.genovese View Post
    Harbaugh, with a team with a rookie QB and the most players on IR in the league, led his team to the AFC Championship game. On the whole thats a lot more impressive than one 3-point victory.

    Tomlin clearly has the hardware to back up his skills but damn sometimes Ravens fans have short memories.

    I remember that. I also remember his rookie qb being the starter, not 3rd string. I also remember him losing 3 times to Tomlin.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    I remember that. I also remember his rookie qb being the starter, not 3rd string. I also remember him losing 3 times to Tomlin.
    Hmmm I seem to remember Kyle Boller being the #1. And then he got hurt. And then I remember Troy Smith being the starter. Who then got tonsilitis. Then I remember the 3rd QB (Flacco) being named the week one starter.

    But that doesn't fit your narrative of Harbaugh being inept and Tomlin being all-powerful does it? You pointed out one example of Tomlin performing a good coaching job (one game mind you). Then I point out a protracted example of a good coaching job over an entire season and you refute it with "WELL HE DIDN'T BEAT TOMLIN AND DIDN'T DO IT WITH CHARLIE BATCH SO HE STILL SUCKS."

    Again, short memories. Tomlin's a really good coach. Harbaugh is a good coach too. They can both be good coaches, it's not one or the other.
    Last edited by s.r.genovese; 12-04-2012 at 06:13 PM.




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