Phantom sack?

**Ravens825** · 12-03-2012, 12:44 AM

Someone who knows could you please explain this for me?

We get to Batch and as he is going to the ground he throws the ball to the ground and it is called an incomplete pass. Worst fucking challenge i have ever seen btw.

Flacco gets hit and as he is going to the ground he throws the ball and it is caught. Why did they blow the whistle when he wasn't even on the ground yet?

Being devils advocate i have always said There are shitty calls in every game. Some help and some hurt. That one def hurt and for the life of me i can't figure out why it happened.

Anyone know of some video somewhere? They didn't even show it on replay unless i missed it somehow.

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 12-03-2012, 12:46 AM

Refs sucked; we still coulda woulda shoulda won

But didn't

What else is new?

as for the whistle, the ref thought Flacco was going to get sacked, and in anticipation of that, blew the play dead just as Flacco threw the ball

**Ravens825** · 12-03-2012, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

Refs sucked; we still coulda woulda shoulda won

But didn't

What else is new?

as for the whistle, the ref thought Flacco was going to get sacked, and in anticipation of that, blew the play dead just as Flacco threw the ball

Well not sure how they can blow a whistle on a hunch.

**rla20cpa** · 12-03-2012, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Ravens825

Well not sure how they can blow a whistle on a hunch.

Apparently it's not uncommon (Boldin/Weddle):

http://www.nctimes.com/sports/footba...84847f816.html

Daopoulos said, while not sure if there was helmet-to-helmet contact, he would have penalized Boldin.

“It's just such a vicious hit,” Daopoulos said in a phone interview from Fort Lauderdale, Fla. “I just think it wasn't a legal hit. It had the potential for a block in the back. It also was a hit on a defenseless player. It kind of fell into a couple of categories. …

“There's not 100 percent evidence that it was an illegal hit. It just didn't look good to me.

**Haloti92** · 12-03-2012, 01:18 AM

It was a bad call, but understandable considering the league/refs these days. The "in the grasp" rule as it stands today only applies when a QB is "in the grasp" and is in danger of being hit by a 2nd defender. In the case where they called it on us, there was a 2nd defender and the guy may have touched Flacco's leg, but there was no real danger Joe was going to get hit/hurt because the 2nd defender was on the ground (in no position to hit anyone).

The bottomline is the rule as it stands looks to prevent a QB from being held upright while someone else hammers him. In those cases, the ref should call in the grasp and blow the whistle. It was a bad call today.

**saintmatthew** · 12-03-2012, 09:17 AM

What I would like to know is that if the pass after he was "in the grasp" and the whistle was blown was no good, then why was the act of throwing him headfirst into the ground kosher, especially in light of Kruger's 15 yard shove later on?

**NCRAVEN** · 12-03-2012, 09:37 AM

What I wanna know is, if this was a sack, how was the play where we challenged for a fumble not a sack. Batch was clearly wrapped up and all but on the ground. I don't think it would have been anything other than a loss of a few yards, but come on there was no way this was a sack.