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    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    Suggs also had seasons with 12 and 10.5 sacks earlier in his career, so it's not like he wasn't capable of putting up the numbers.

    Plus, Suggs was a pending FA in 2007, when he only put up 5 sacks. He signed his long term deal in 2009. That's when he only put up 4.5 sacks, albeit in only 13 games.

    So, he signed his new contract before the 2 years that you referenced as evidence of some sort of chemically-enhanced contract drive.
    Didn't he also have a heel injury in August that caused him to put on weight and start the season (2009) out of shape?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    His bodycomp changed significantly.
    Um... How do you figure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    Let's see if he continues to have tendon issues going forward?

    Let's see if his production drops off significantly.

    His bodycomp changed significantly.

    Lots of NFL'ers using HGH i am sure and I have no problem with it. Why does anybody?
    OK, so now we're down to just the body comp, since your other "facts" didn't really bear out, eh?

    Suggs was always in good shape in his early years. He showed up in 2008 totally out of shape because he sat out all OTAs and most of TC because of the franchise tag. He partially did the same in 2009 until he signed his deal in July. He then, as NC said, got banged up in TC, so he wasn't in great shape then either and he later missed 3 games in the middle of the season (but, wait, that must have been due to HGH!)

    Now, he looks like he did earlier in his career.

    But, to humor your opinion, I have to ask, since your original (incorrect) premise was that he used HGH because of his pending contract situation, why then did he start after he got the fat contract?

    And, if he was apparently inclined to use HGH, why didn't he use it during his contract drive - as you said - or even earlier in his career?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    OK, so now we're down to just the body comp, since your other "facts" didn't really bear out, eh?

    Suggs was always in good shape in his early years. He showed up in 2008 totally out of shape because he sat out all OTAs and most of TC because of the franchise tag. He partially did the same in 2009 until he signed his deal in July. He then, as NC said, got banged up in TC, so he wasn't in great shape then either and he later missed 3 games in the middle of the season (but, wait, that must have been due to HGH!)

    Now, he looks like he did earlier in his career.

    But, to humor your opinion, I have to ask, since your original (incorrect) premise was that he used HGH because of his pending contract situation, why then did he start after he got the fat contract?

    And, if he was apparently inclined to use HGH, why didn't he use it during his contract drive - as you said - or even earlier in his career?
    Hmmm, started his career on fire.

    Band his numbers drop....

    Bang all of the sudden he is ripped to shreds and is tearing it up....

    Bang, starts tearing tendons like they are paper. Hell, he didn't even last a quarter of the season before he tears another tendon.

    Yep, there is no circumstantial evidence he was using a substance the NFLPA refuses to test for and is known for causing tendon problems because it DOESN'T grow or help tendons recover, just muscles and organs.

    Nope, nothing here to see at all.

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    I'll tell you that I partially tore my hamstring 5 weeks into a cycle. I was running again in 3 weeks. Juice does wonders for injuries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    Hmmm, started his career on fire.

    Band his numbers drop....

    Bang all of the sudden he is ripped to shreds and is tearing it up....

    Bang, starts tearing tendons like they are paper. Hell, he didn't even last a quarter of the season before he tears another tendon.

    Yep, there is no circumstantial evidence he was using a substance the NFLPA refuses to test for and is known for causing tendon problems because it DOESN'T grow or help tendons recover, just muscles and organs.

    Nope, nothing here to see at all.
    Get a clue what HGH does versus Steroids before you even imply someone is suffering from the results of illegal drug use. Ruins your whole argument when you don't even know what HGH does.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    I'll tell you that I partially tore my hamstring 5 weeks into a cycle. I was running again in 3 weeks. Juice does wonders for injuries.
    And doesn't do wonders for the ole testicles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    And doesn't do wonders for the ole testicles.
    Not if you use proper post cycle therapy but I don't want to get into that. Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    Get a clue what HGH does versus Steroids before you even imply someone is suffering from the results of illegal drug use. Ruins your whole argument when you don't even know what HGH does.
    LOL, yeah HGH is good for you :thumbs up: and no one in the NFL ever takes it. Thanks for setting me straight.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    LOL, yeah HGH is good for you :thumbs up: and no one in the NFL ever takes it. Thanks for setting me straight.
    Thats not what he meant. You might want to do some research.

    Pro sports didn't ban hGH because it's bad for you. They did so because of the competitive advantage it gives an athlete.

    There are numerous study's suggesting the benefits far out weigh the side effects when taken in moderation.
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    Its complete nonsense how this thread has turned into if Suggs took HGH.

    NO!!!!!!!!

    Suggs has put up monster seasons before last and has been injured and came back. HGH has nothing to do with that. Remember his Knee injury vs Brady Quinn?




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    This threat is a prime example of what a bad fan is and also what an ignorant complete buffoon is. HGH? really? Anyone who thinks that needs to give their head a shake




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    Its certainly reasonable to feel Suggs is not taking hGH. However, I think it's naive to think all the Ravens players are not taking hGH.

    It's far more prevalent then some realize and completely not tested for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRob View Post
    Hmmm, started his career on fire.

    Band his numbers drop....

    Bang all of the sudden he is ripped to shreds and is tearing it up....

    Bang, starts tearing tendons like they are paper. Hell, he didn't even last a quarter of the season before he tears another tendon.

    Yep, there is no circumstantial evidence he was using a substance the NFLPA refuses to test for and is known for causing tendon problems because it DOESN'T grow or help tendons recover, just muscles and organs.

    Nope, nothing here to see at all.
    LOL, talk about continuing to move the goal posts.

    First, it's HGH because he's in a contract push.

    Then, when your dates don't work, it's about some alleged change in his body.

    Then, when the context of being tagged and the reasons for being out of shape are presented, it's on to "his numbers" dropped, even though his play was still at a high level. Yes, his sack numbers dropped, but he had become a complete player and made his 1st 2 Pro Bowls in 2006 and 2008.

    Sorry, but the only year you could say that his play declined would be 2009 - after he got his contract - when he was banged up for much of the year.
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    Full practice yesterday. Just saying. He very well could play against the Broncos.




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