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Thread: Heads need to roll
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12-02-2012, 08:57 PM #13Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Heads need to roll
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12-02-2012, 09:06 PM #14Veteran Poster
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Re: Heads need to roll
I agree totally on Flacco. This team and its fans have been so used to having no QB at all that Flacco has looked like a top tier QB in comparison. However, after seeing him go multiple quarters and/or games where he looks asleep and plays horribly, and this in year five, I think it's dawning on people that he is not a guy who will carry you to the SB. Plus, Flacco has enjoyed top five defenses most of the time here. As more of the burden falls on him, I'm not seeing a guy who can do the job.
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12-02-2012, 09:16 PM #15Regular 1st Stringer
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It has to be more than that otherwise the Ravens wouldn't win so much especially compared to the Billick era. The Jets definitely fit that definition though. key word is context when I'm mentioning good/talent, since everyone likes comparing the Ravens to teams like the Colts (manning era), Patriots, Packers, etc. 5-11 regardless of whether the players "quit" on the coach (which is pitiful on the coach in and of itself) is not talent and if anything reinforces the good Harbaugh has brought (how many back-to-back playoff seasons did Billick have?). The fact that people are ALREADY making "heads need to roll" threads when a team JUST went 9-3 with only 2 other teams in the entire NFL with better records speaks volumes here. but hey, the loss is fresh, you guys can get back to letting it out. agree to disagree here.
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12-02-2012, 09:25 PM #16Hall Of Fame Poster
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I'm getting tired of Flacco AND Harbaugh. Maybe a housecleaning is in order....
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12-02-2012, 09:26 PM #17On The Practice Squad
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12-02-2012, 09:31 PM #18Hall Of Fame Poster
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12-02-2012, 09:33 PM #19Pro Bowl Poster
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Lets start with getting rid of Cam and see where that gets us.
This is, however, a bad team and it is not going anywhere this year. At least we found Justin Tucker.
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12-02-2012, 09:40 PM #20Hall Of Fame Poster
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Coaching changes on offense are long overdue. John Harbaugh, I don't know... I think we have all understood, at some depth of our consciousness, that he is probably not contributing much if anything to this team in X's and O's. He is a motivator and a delegator, your traditional managerial type. He's not a visionary, he's not a gameplan guy. But his game management remains where it was in 2008 and no better. He is not improving or learning, and his team was totally unprepared today.
I still don't think Harbaugh isn't the right guy for this team. He just needs more help. He is a HC who needs to have top-tier coordinators, and he doesn't have a top-tier OC or DC. If we upgrade at the coordinator spots that might have a major effect.
In terms of personnel, Flacco is not the problem. He did not have a great game, but no rational person thinks his failures in this game define him as a player and QB, especially given how badly his teammates around him also failed. He CAN play better, which we know. I BELIEVE he can play more consistently, but I doubt he can do it under this offensive staff.
The people who want to get rid of Flacco for Alex Smith or whoever are stupid and don't know football, but I can understand that they're thinking with their guts and not their minds. That's fine. If nothing else, change OCs and give Flacco a year under the franchise tag. Then, at a minimum we'll know more.
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