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    I know I'm a broken record here but if you are going to pay #5 and #27 $140M then you also have to construct a wall in front of them... G-C-G or C-G-T. I would like to see us aggressively address our OL deficiencies.
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    Re: FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    I know I'm a broken record here but if you are going to pay #5 and #27 $140M then you also have to construct a wall in front of them... G-C-G or C-G-T. I would like to see us aggressively address our OL deficiencies.
    Yup, totally agreed.

    I will say that the interior is becoming more important every year than the tackles. You can have a great Oline with three all pro quality guards and a center, but with only average tackles, similar to what the Saints had last year. Speaking of dropping the ball, the Saints are a team who REALLY dropped the ball in the offseason with their Oline.




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    Re: FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post

    I think LG and C is much more of an issue than the tackle positions are at this point. The interior OL is a big reason for the issues in the ground game. So, we agree there.

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    Agree with you -- including your point about needing two "LTs." IMHO we don't have even one. I also agree you usually need a high draft pick for a really good T, but that is NOT the case for C or G. The FO should have had a better G behind Grubb than . . . Who? Harewood? Jah Reid? And at C, a late rounder in the 2011 draft would have been smarter than picking a guy (Gino G) in 2012 who apparently is not ready to play C at all this year.




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    Re: FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    I know I'm a broken record here but if you are going to pay #5 and #27 $140M then you also have to construct a wall in front of them... G-C-G or C-G-T. I would like to see us aggressively address our OL deficiencies.
    this is what the patriots did for brady and the colts did for manning. no QB is effective if they are playing from their back or under duress.




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    Re: FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by Section 502 Raven View Post
    this is what the patriots did for brady and the colts did for manning. no QB is effective if they are playing from their back or under duress.
    those guys get rid of the ball in 3 seconds; that's a big part of why the Oline looks better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post

    those guys get rid of the ball in 3 seconds; that's a big part of why the Oline looks better.
    Which would point at the OC and scheme ...no? ;-)

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    Re: FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

    Even though each of our linemen outside of Yanda has struggled terribly in a lot of one-on-one matchups this year, I see the more serious problem as scheme and coaching rather than pure talent level.

    When you have an uneven OL, you need to find a way to scheme around your weaknesses. If the left side of your line is bad, you slide a lot of protections to that side and have backs and TEs chip out of the backfield. If your interior line is bad, you move the pocket and run behind tackle. And so on and so on... but this line can't do that.

    It's very hard for this team to do that. They don't have a "good side" and "bad side." Yes, Yanda is a good RG, but Osemele misses too many blocks and struggles with speed rushers too much for the Ravens to rely on that side to hold up. Oher is only passable at LT and isn't really demonstrating consistent improvement at all. Even with their deficiencies at OT, their interior is too weak to be relied on as Birk is having by far the worst year of his career and LG hasn't stabilized yet.

    The Ravens desperately need to find some way to stabilize at least one element of their OL in a big way. I don't know if the personnel exists for them to do that at this point, as there's nobody better than the 5 they're fielding right now. Osemele should improve at RT, Reid has the potential to hold down the LG spot and possibly improve. Even assuming those two improve you'll still have problems.

    Next year, if they could just improve at ONE position, C or LT, it could cascade all the way down. Of course, next year doesn't help us right now...




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Which would point at the OC and scheme ...no? ;-)

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    Certainly that's part of it but their Pre snap reads are a big part also IMO. That's. why they do all of the pointing and posturing to force the defense to show its hand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post

    Certainly that's part of it but their Pre snap reads are a big part also IMO. That's. why they do all of the pointing and posturing to force the defense to show its hand
    I thought that was all for show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I thought that was all for show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post

    Rharris is that you?
    Haha, oh come on now. Im not a Cam fan at all, but I still want them black birds to win.

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    Re: FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Certainly that's part of it but their Pre snap reads are a big part also IMO. That's. why they do all of the pointing and posturing to force the defense to show its hand
    I agree. But you also get better pre-snap reads by using motion, which forces the defense to tip its hand.




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    Re: FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Problem is none of the TE's can block.
    That's usually the case as it was with Heap.




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    Re: FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by Tspot-D-Ravenator View Post
    Osemele had so much trouble with Barnes... He was a turnstile at times and he can't handle the speed rushers

    Neither can Oher. Film has said as much in
    other reports.




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    Re: FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    That's usually the case as it was with Heap.
    Heap was a better blocker though, too bad he was already done at 30.




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