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    Re: This made me so mad



    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Are you suggesting this defense hasn't regressed?

    Going from the tops of the league last year to the near bottom is certainly regression. Not sure how you can fault him there.
    He specifically said after losing Ray and Webb. Not this year.

    he Ravens' defense has not been the same sans injured players Lardarius Webb and Ray Lewis




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    [QUOTE=leachisabeast;524502]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ant-be-trusted

    Never liked Adam Shein, he seems to really dislike the Ravens.

    Surprising considering his wifes a Baltimore Gal and Ravens fan.




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    Just looking for a little clarification folks. Gees.

    Thanks JBK.
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    Re: This made me so mad

    If anything Flacco has proven time and time again that we can trust him.
    Any QB that can match Ben and Brady multiple times can be trusted to win the big games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenjoe View Post
    "Flacco was average at best (completing 30 of 51 passes for 355 yards and one touchdown) in Sunday's squeaker of a win over the San Diego Chargers"

    I totally disagree with this statement - where is he coming from based on the stats alone?! Not to mention the fact that Joe delivered time and again down the stretch when the Ravens needed to keep moving the chains. No, this guy's comments are way off base, imho!
    Quote Originally Posted by JMUpurkfool View Post
    If that was a Tom Brady stat line you would never hear it called "average at best".
    Pretty much what I was talking about in the other thread. If that game played out exactly as it did for a QB like Ben or Brady or Rodgers or Brees, there would be no mention of "average" or that the QB didn't play well early, it would just be about the "miraculous" comback engineered by said QB.

    But, with Flacco, it's different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Schein does like the Ravens but he has always felt that Flacco is holding us back from a Super Bowl. He's been talking up Rice since the Rutgers days. He's always said great things about Ray and Reed. It's Flacco he has an issue with, not the Ravens.
    Yup I heard him talking about it yesterday; basically saying the same thing and that it's the worse 9-2 team ever. But he loves Rice and thinks he is the reason the Ravens win games. You could make that argument...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Schein does like the Ravens but he has always felt that Flacco is holding us back from a Super Bowl. He's been talking up Rice since the Rutgers days. He's always said great things about Ray and Reed. It's Flacco he has an issue with, not the Ravens.
    Yeah I wish Flacco wouldn't have dropped that sure touchdown in the endzone of the AFC Championship or missed that chipshot fieldgoal to at least tie it. What a bum.




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    Re: This made me so mad

    From week to week, I don't trust Joe Flacco either. If by trust you mean have confidence that he will go out and be a great fantasy QB and throw 325/3TD/0Int. He has a lot of up and down games and that is neither a revelation nor a particularly interesting thing to write about at this point in time.

    But you know when I do trust Joe Flacco? When the game is on the line, there is 3 minutes left and the Ravens need to score to win. More often than not he finds a way. He did last week against San Diego. Haters are the ones who complain that he checked down on 4th and 29 even though Rice converted. They would have hated if Rice came up short. They would have hated if Flacco through an incomplete pass into triple coverage. They would have called it lucky if he completed the pass and converted. Joe made a decision that instead of trying to force something that wasn't there, he would take his chances by getting the best open field runner in the NFL the ball uncovered in the open field. It was lucky as hell but I am glad he did that instead of trying to go down field on a lower percentage play. Joe found a way because that is what he does.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Schein does like the Ravens but he has always felt that Flacco is holding us back from a Super Bowl. He's been talking up Rice since the Rutgers days. He's always said great things about Ray and Reed. It's Flacco he has an issue with, not the Ravens.
    That's fine. But there are probably better ways to make his point than to call a 355 yard game "average at best" and to call an improving defense "regressive". That is just lazy writing, imo...




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    Re: This made me so mad

    Schein's another one who watches highlights or looks at the fantasy stats instead of watching the games.

    Otherwise he might have noticed what many of us have: that Cam has called games where he constantly sends our WRs on the same 2 routes: the fly or the out; when this happens the other D blanket covers the area downfield outside the hashes leaving our receivers double covered throughout the game. He did this against the Texans & Steelers.

    Even when Cam adds more variety to the pass routes, he still tends to avoid sending our WRs over the middle of the field on slants and crossing routes. We saw this in the Eagles in the 2nd half, Chiefs (where we also had drops and penalties killing our offense) and the 1st 3 Qtrs of the Chargers games.

    Finally, Cam has another bad habit: sending the RB straight up the middle constantly on 1st & 2nd down, even after the opposing D has adjusted and is poised to defend it; we saw this against the 2nd Browns game for 2 Qtrs.

    Hey, waitaminutehere!!!

    All of those games have been road games were our offense has sputtered and wheezed for most of the game or simply been DOA.

    You think there could be a connection there?




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    i don;t care what some fool says about Joe. Joe did suprise me on Sunday with so many passes that were nowhee near the receiver. its to late in teh season to have cmmunication problems and on many of the bad throws he didn;t seem under pressure and trying to throw the ball away.




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    If this is the worst 9-2 team ever (it's not), then the Falcons are the worst 10-1 team ever.

    In the end it doesn't matter. The team has shown they know how to win close games, and occasionally blow outs. This is very close to the same team that should have played for a Lombardi last year. We sucked on the road last year too.

    The difference last year was that we seemed to beat all the good teams we played and lost to the bad teams. I feel like this team is just as good, if not better.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    That's fine. But there are probably better ways to make his point than to call a 355 yard game "average at best" and to call an improving defense "regressive". That is just lazy writing, imo...
    That game was the perfect example of how deceiving stats can be. Joe was not very good but guys like Rice, Pitta and Torrey helped his stats tremendously by playing great.

    I do agree with you about the regressive defense line. He should have pointed out that the defense has regressed from previous years but it certainly hasn't regressed compared to the start of the season.
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    Typical hate for small market teams IMO. Houston and Atlanta are constantly being doubted too. If the top 3 in the Nfl were Denver, NE, and GB everyone would be washing their balls




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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 502 Raven View Post
    i don;t care what some fool says about Joe. Joe did suprise me on Sunday with so many passes that were nowhee near the receiver. its to late in teh season to have cmmunication problems and on many of the bad throws he didn;t seem under pressure and trying to throw the ball away.
    What I saw was exactly what another poster pointed out.
    The Chargers inverted their DBs like the Steelers did.
    And nothing changed in the Ravens playcalling, as usual...THAT is what I can't get over.
    What that means is this...if the safety comes up and is underneath the receiver route and the corner is behind the receiver, then you have to throw high to get it over the underneath defender...AND you can't float the ball or it will be a pick six. You have to drive the ball high and either hope your guy jumps up to get it or it goes sailing harmlessly out of bounds. That's why Joe had almost no choice but to keep throwing high and out of bounds. A pick six and that game is over.

    It continues to be a play design problem and has been for 4+ years now.
    IF you noticed, in desperation mode at the end of the game, we ran the shotgun, used the entire field and moved right down the field.
    And yet, even during that, the routes were simple, the throws were perfect, and the catches were great.




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