Besides without them the board would be almost boring.
Personally I don't know what is more obnoxious:
A) People that insist the Ravens are doomed.
B) People that say 'look at the record, doom mongers' and completely gloss over any negative aspects of a performance and the potential implications of that.
I thought the point of a forum was debate about a topic, not polarised whining and polyannaism.
But hey, if you want to adjust reality to suit a fictional theory of moral equivalency between two sides of a debate, go for it. This is a free forum and you're welcome to it.
Just because you are a fan of a team does not mean you can't have a negative outlook on the remainder of the season. There is nothing wrong with saying that due to the injuries and poor coaching it may be difficult for the Ravens to go .500 and make the playoffs. It is not an unrealistic attitude. You still pull hard for the team to win. I look at the way our crappy OC and DC are coaching and wonder how we beat the Steelers. I will still pull hard for them every week. I hope they find a way to win some games they are not expected to win.
We have averaged over 30 points a game at home and we still have 4 home games left so I'm not buying into the whole 2-6 2nd half record.
And for those who think we don't have a chance why are you torturing yourself? Why submit yourself to 3 hours of "horrible" football every Sunday?
Edit: And look at this page of 'Look at the doommongers, what's wrong with them?!' posts. I mean according to some they aren't really Ravens fans, or they should just make the logical choice to stop supporting the Ravens. Those comments are about as stupid as any prophecies of doom being thrown around.
First of all the Ravens are a different beast at home. They get the Steelers, Giants, and Broncos in Baltimore. I expect them to win all 3 of those games. Of the Redskins, Bengals, and Chargers they will find a way to win another one. And the game vs. Oakland. I expect them to not only get to 10 wins but maybe even pass it.
Ok without the doom and gloom or bashin of other posters, damn guys maybe answer the questions instead of just frying people.
At he start of the year I had us losing, NE and the Giants at home and SD,KC and Houston on the road.
Now midway through the season I can still see us losing to the Giants and now see us losing to the Skins, add in la loss @ Pitt. Denver will be the swing game as to if we finish with 10 or 11 wins. The really unfortunate thing is, I can also see Shitsburgh getting to 11 wins also.
I predicted 11-5 and I am sticking with it.
I think a lot of people are overlooking that the Ravens defense played much better against the Browns then they did in their first meeting(at home even). The pass rush was dismal in the first half, but the team is making adjustments, and tightening things up.
People also forget that the supposed mighty, unbeatable Chargers team, only scored 6 points the week before against these same Browns. So we are this horrible team, that can't score, yet we put up 25 against them? Won by 10 on the road?
There is doom and gloom, and I get that, but there is also chicken little, and there's a LOT of chicken little going on around here.
I don't see us losing the Skins. I'm not sure how anybody sees that. They aren't very good at all. I also don't see us losing to the Giants at home. Not after seeing them against the Steelers. The Giants look like they could be starting their typical second half swoon.
The Denver game will be tough, unless we discover a pass rush. That one could prevent us from winning the division.
While I didn't predict a record my gut feeling prior to this year was that the Ravens would win the division and guarantee themselves at least one home game in the playoffs. So far we are on track but for whatever reason most posters act like the train has already derailed. Yes it's frustrating how the offense occassionally finds themselves in a funk for an extended period of time so I understand the "confidence" factor taking a hit but this is a resilent good football team. One game at a time folks.
Wins: Oak, Was,
Toss up: Pitt(home), SD, Den, NYG, Cincy
I have SD as a toss up because Norv Turner has owned our defense even when it was not in bad shape. Cincy may move to a win if they continue to struggle and lose games. They may not have anything to play for the last week of the season. DEN and NYG are going to be tough. If the defense does not get better the Manning brothers may shred it. I have no faith in Cam to be able to win a shoot out against either team. The team absolutely has to win the Oak, Wash and Pitt Home games or it is going to be a battle for the wild card. Before the season I predicted 9-7 with the Ravens battling the Steelers for a wild card spot behind the Bengals. I thought the losses would be Hou, NWE, Pitt, Cincy, Philly, SD, NYG
Are we so spoiled now that a divisional win on the road against an improving team is not something to celebrate. The Ravens profess to having the best fans in the NFL, but what happens when we finally hit the skids (and it will happen, the league is cyclical)? Will the fans stop coming to M&T? I mean, we have been to the playoffs the last 4 years (with a great chance this year baring a collapse) and 2 AFC championship appearances.
The issue here isn't that the offense didn't score 40 points. It's that they displayed complete ineptitude for 30 straight minutes. I'm still trying to figure out how the defense didn't collapse from exhaustion. I don't care that they were on the road, they can't have long stretches like that and get away with it against the good teams.
It's one thing to be disappointed in our play and discuss ways that we as fans would try and improve the team. The team isn't giving everybody a lot of confidence...I get that.
But to see some of these posters throwing in the white towel like this is pretty gross IMHO.
It's like a race to see who can be the first overly pessimistic fan who can brag about being able to say "I told you so" as soon as the team loses.
There is as much evidence right now to suggest we go 8-0 as there is to support the idea that we go 2-6. The Ravens figure to be a favorite, or a small dog, with every game remaining on their schedule.
This Browns team is not bad at all. Put them in the AFC South or AFC West and I'm not sure they aren't 5-4 right now. There are four teams in the AFC (Tenn, Jax, KC, Oak) that are clearly worse than them and a handful of other teams (SD, Indy, Cincy, Buffalo, Miami, NYJ) that are roughly on the same level as them. As much luck as the Ravens have mustered up this year to be 6-2, the Browns have had as much luck against them to wind up at 2-7.