He is gone from the Ravens - enough said!
He is gone from the Ravens - enough said!
Autocorrect is a bitch sometimes, festivus.
You act as if Gaither/Rosenhaus are not Watkins' clients (they are)
You act as if there is some way Watkins' reputation could be hurt by giving the diagnosis he did (how?)
You act as if this injury was objectively shown in any way (it wasn't, no "tear" shown on scans)
You act as if many many diagnoses are not just best guesses based on what the patient tells the doctor (they are, and this is crucial)
You act as if Watkins' diagnosis explained the amount of time Gaither missed (it didn't)
Tell me why the following could not have occurred:
Gaither is pissed and doesn't want to play RT or practice. He says his back hurts (or, similarly, his back does hurt a little but he says it really hurts). He tells Rosenhaus. Rosenhaus understands the situation, and his sole priority is keeping Gaither happy lest he get fired. Rosenhaus calls Watkins. Watkins runs tests that show nothing, but also listens to Gaither describe the "pain" he is supposedly feeling. Since not all minor injuries show up on scans, and considering there is NO possible reason why Watkins would ever call his patient/client a liar, Watkins says take two aspirin and rest until it feels better (gives rough timetable of a few weeks). The Ravens similarly run tests that show nothing, and listen to Gaither's complaints. They also, based on Gaither's complaints, conclude he has a minor injury and set up a timetable for his return. Unlike Watkins, the Ravens doctors are beholden to the team not Gaither. Once Gaither started missing time that was way beyond that which such a non-objective minor injury should require, combined with the obvious fact Gaither was pissed and had rep of being lazy, the Ravens cut bait.
Again, where is an elaborate conspiracy needed?
I really am so flabbergasted by your post that I'm not sure how to respond. Your scenario is literally a story, a fairy tale, totally devoid of facts, and there's no way to prove or disprove a non-factual statement.
Also, in the context of your description of the location of the Gaither threads, it actually *is* a sorted history. Sorted by subject matter.
You are so flabbergasted that you cannot respond?
And as for how "arguments work".... Neither side "knows" anything here (though you seem to be pretending that you do), and we are merely arguing over possibilities. We have some evidence and facts and we are tasked with trying to explain them. There are competing theories, and the "argument" is about how well the theories fit the facts/evidence. Your initial post was an attempt to undermine the competing theory, but it obviously failed. I would even go so far as to say that (based on all the evidence, some of which occurred since the incident) Occam's Razor supports my theory over yours, but of course that is also "arguable."
as far as if the injury is real or fake, like houston said were not changing each others opinions, so its pointless. the way i look at it is If hes lazy and doesnt practice (which youre saying is his main goal), hell get out of shape (if he isnt to begin with) and if youre out of shape youre more susceptible to injuries. Thus making the path of least resistance, that the injury is real and caused because hes lazy, not that he lied about an injury to be lazy. He has a reputation as being lazy not a liar and thats what im basing it off of. youre going an extra step and saying hed be willing to lie to be lazy, as well as 2-3 others to cover for him.
Jab, this does not "disprove" anything. It is still perfectly possible he was faking (or exaggerating) a mysterious back ailment because he'd rather lay around and do nothing than play football (at left tackle, right tackle, whatever), and now that he's been paid, he'd rather lay around and do nothing than play football, so he once again fakes or exaggerates an injury.
Personally, I suspect the exaggeration, but you absolutely can not, logically speaking, point to this and call it "proof" that he did not, in the past, fake or exaggerate a back injury to get out of doing something he didn't want to do. Whatever it may have been.
You know sometimes I hate this board. I told myself I was not going to get into reading a Gaither thread, I peeked and then got hooked. The volleys for serve, the comedy, the image of a hamster on a wheel, ....
Is there any way to set up a ban on "Gaither-talk" unless he is signed by the Ravens? We already have a token OLine-Loser to talk about.
This thread is so intriguing. I was away from this board for a while, but before I left, Gaither was the most polarizing player then and there were 5 page threads of arguments in those threads. It's like I never left, but the arguments I feel are mute with him stealing another teams money now.
Of course everyone SWORE they knew better and despite overwhelming evidence that he was really injured, still proclaiming him a liar who just was "lazy" or didn't want to practice.
Not a Raven any more. Had the discussions hundreds of times over to no avail. People have made up their minds either way. Please stop posting topics about him.