I understand taking one for the team, but that is ridiculous. I guess football really is religion in Alabama.
A returner is very important for the Ravens. Our offense is very vanilla and sometimes it stalls. If we had better returners we would have better field position. How many times did the Ravens start on their own 20yd line or less last season? How many 3 and outs did we get? We gave so many teams a short playing field last season from our non return game and our inability to pick up first downs.
The way i see it is the Ravens need a return guy. Someone who will give us better field position. Jacoby Jones would fit the criteria. He is already proven. If not Jones than someone needs to step up in a big way this year.
Webb just got an contract to be our #1 CB for many years to come. He will not be our primary returner. On occasions he will step back there to field punts or kickoffs but dont expect to see him that much if any. Field position will be key for the Ravens this year because i know it will be the same offense as before.
I sometimes wonder about your thought process. Seriously.
Jones has had every opportunity in Houston to solidify himself as the #2 receiver. He hasn't and a big reason for that is because he's only really effective when he's wide open, which in the AFC North is rarely the case. Jones wouldn't have been the difference in any of those games you mentioned by any stretch of the imagination.
What I am saying is that doing something dumb when you're 19 doesn't define you as a man as long as you learn from your mistake and don't commit those atrocities again.
He's lucky and who knows...maybe "he" paid the father and girl off?
And we got it. Point being their is no Raven type player- just ballers. We need a
return man is my point. It wont be Webb, it won't be Doss (to slow). If they were
confident in what they had they wouldn't have gone after Ginn.
There are "Raven type" players and Jacoby Jones isn't one of them. Ginn was being looked at purely as a return specialist and guess what? He didn't have any fumbles last year and has had 1 fumble in the past 2 seasons. Ginn may not be a physical player, but he doesn't fumble that often either and Ginn also isn't looking to be a team's #1 or #2 receiver. He also has 3 ST's touchdowns in the past two seasons as well, including 1 PR and 1 KR for TD's last year. So, in 138 returns (Punts/Kickoffs) in the past two seasons he's fumbled one time. This is, of course, also considering that he averaged over 12 yards per punt return last year and nearly 28 yards per kick return.
Your boy Jones didn't return a single kick off last year and averaged 10.6 yards per punt return with 1 TD. He also has 3 fumbles in the past 2 years.
So hmmm....let's weigh this out...1 guy has 1 fumble in 2 years and 3 TD's while averaging more yards per return and another guy has 1 TD in 2 years, averages less yards per return, and more fumbles...hmmm...
The fact that one player fumbled has nothing to do with another player's fumbling. Jones plays soft and small. We saw part of that when he fumbled against us because he took his eyes off the ball out of fear of getting hit. That's not his only problem, just like Wicked said, he's one of the least physical WRs you'll ever see. He's just not a try-hard guy and the Texans have given him the chance to win the starting job opposite Andre Johnson for 5 years now. He's never stepped up and taken it. The guy is a nobody, not a "baller" (whatever that ridiculous term even means.)
Ginn might be better than what we had on the roster when we were trying to sign him, but that has nothing to do with whether or not JONES is better than what we have now. That's a huge stretch.
Wicked ignore this guy, you wont get any sense out of him.
Wicked you open by saying Jones wasn't a Raven type player! I responded by saying what is a Raven type player. You responded by he is a P..sy, he'd drop balls at Pittsbugh. I gave you evidence how OUR Raven players dropped big plays vs Pittsbugh costing them 2 games, almost a 3rd. Ravens need a PR. We don't have one we can trust. Only rookies or Webb, but Webb is to valuable to do that. KO's are easier you have time a wedges to read, plus with new rules most balls are touchbacks. Jones, could return punts a vie as a 3rd/4th WR and deep threat. He isn't gods gift to the earth, but better at returning kicks with what we have now. Doss, leQuan and Steeter are unproven. Doss is a possession WR so take him out of the equation. But my main concern is the kicks, if the Ravens weren't concerned they wouldn't have made a emphasis to get try to get Ginn. Special teams is an emphasis on both sides is obvious that is why they went after Graham and Considine and drafted Asa and maybe Christian.
The coaches didnt want to have a rookie back there returing punts and kicks. The ravens would rather have a safety return punts than a WR. Which made no sense last year.