If you look at the Colts draft classes from a last few years, they are stinkers.
Two GMs have lost their jobs for not having a backup plan to their QB going down.
I'm thinking Caldwell will be more politically adept than Zorn as an advocate for Joe. He was a high functioning HC, unlike Zorn who never really had a chance w/ the 'Skins circus.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPRavensFan
I hope Caldwell learned a lesson this year when it come to Plan B at QB. Reflecting recently after Billy Goat Grundiff-gate, on how 2 decades of Matt Stover's reliability had spoiled Ravens Nation, it occurred to me that Joe's 1st 4 years have spoiled us as to his durability. The boards will light up all night over "elite vs. non-elite," but there is no arguing that Joe has gone 16 starts plus playoffs 4 years running. I was surprised to never see or even hear rumours [even as disinformation] of a Tyrod package. Hell, use it for one series as a Tebow-esque ground game when in a jam at some point; then opponents' Ds have to spend some time/mind on it.
Joe is not Goober, but that doesn't mean we can [as the Colts did] convince ourselves he won't get sidelined for real at some point, if only for a few games.
So the Ravens lose their successful defensive coordinator to the Colts and in return, the Ravens get Colts' failed head coach. Brilliant. The only possible conclusion is that the Ravens have decided to give up after almost getting into the Super Bowl. If they end up at the bottom, as they likely will, they will have no one to blame but themselves. This is profoundly stupid.[/QUOTE]
Any coach can be successful being the ravens DC!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mattison even had some good game planss. How many of our defensive coaches was promoted on other teams? Its a reason why other teams want our coaches. He also took the Colts to the SB
Hey, Caldwell got the Colts to the SB. Peyton is the one that threw the pick six.
I think Zorn didn't fit in, not just from the standpoint of offensive background but in terms of personality and style of teaching. He's a good man, but different, and as the saying goes "different is not what we're looking for." Caldwell will fit right in. A traditional football coach, specializing in QBs and the passing game.
^ Outstanding. You know I was going to post something similar yesterday but yours is way better.
You should try filling that cup up!
We kicked this around ad nauseum over the summer, but you end up throwing millions at a Brady Quinn or an AJ Feeley just to say "we did something" even though those guys won't win you any more games than the cheapest salaried rookie will. I think that's why they went rookie this year. If another Bulger situation comes along where a real, quality QB is willing to come in, for cheap, and be a backup (a lot to ask for) then that's I'm sure what the Ravens will do.
But Bulgers don't appear out of thin air every year. It's hard enough to have one QB on the roster who can get you to the playoffs. Most NFL teams don't even have ONE to start with, let alone TWO.
I think some of us are missing a key point here: Caldwell will be subordinate to Cam. Caldwell can make very little difference unless Cam allows him to. Caldwell could turn Flacco into Payton Version 2, but if Cam runs Rice up the middle on 1st and 2nd down (for example), leaving Joe with a lot of 3rd and longs, we won't score a whole lot more points.
According to Preston
Richard in Dallas: Is Jim Caldwell having any influence on Joe Flacco?
Mike Preston: I am positive Caldwell is having an influence on Flacco. He works with him every day. According to one assistant coach I spoke with earlier this year, Flacco has learned more this season than ever before under Caldwell.
I don't know how to improve his consistency but that is what his next step is.
I was a big fan of hiring Caldwell from the beginning. I think he's having a very positive impact on flacco. Flacco still has some issues to iron out but i think Caldwell is on the right path working with joe.
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he's still the same Joe on the road