Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
Some people seem to mean, 'playing conservatively.' Most of the time people talk about coacing bland, vanilla, not to lose, as far as I can tell what they mean is 'coaching in a game where you lose,' which is how I believe you were using it, and still do.
To be fair to Billick, besides complaining about his failure as OC in this game, he gets full props for his fine work all year. Not just as coach, but as OC. I know you disagree, but while we are on the subject of TL's remarks on the game, I point you to his responses to letter writers here, in which he looks backward at BB's performance over the whole season.
Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
Here is a direct quote from the article you yourself posted. Just read it, and, as far as I'm concerned, it -- along with Billick's shitty clock management -- defines what I'm talking about as far as a coach who is AFRAID to play an aggressive -- and SMART -- offense. (I am NOT advocating reckless abandon or Air Coryell -- just proper use of personnel.)
In the passing game, Billick chose not to test Dungy’s Cover 2 despite Bob Sanders’ cheating up inside the box. Billick doesn’t seem to trust his offensive talent and is hesitant to challenge a defense. As a result, it makes it more difficult for Billick’s offense to execute within its comfort zone which is obviously from the line of scrimmage and out 15 yards.
And you're right -- I do NOT agree that BB had a great entire season. I think he didn't do SHIT to properly prepare our team -- physically OR mentally -- against Cinci IN Cinci -- OR make ANY necessary adjustments at half time. I think he did NOT prepare well for the Buffalo game either. And I think, looking back, it's the DEFENSE and Rex Ryan who deserve the props again. I think Billick UNDERUTILIZED Mike Anderson, and it wasn't even until later in the year that Billick realized the value of Ovie Mughelli. Maybe if he'd understood his own personnel better, the outcomes in some of our other losses might have been different as well.
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Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
Jim Fassell used Mike Anderson plenty. We looked a lot better on offense after BB took over.
Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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festivus
Jim Fassell used Mike Anderson plenty. We looked a lot better on offense after BB took over.
Whatever, man.
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And you're right -- I do NOT agree that BB had a great entire season. I think he didn't do SHIT to properly prepare our team -- physically OR mentally -- against Cinci IN Cinci -- OR make ANY necessary adjustments at half time.
The team had a 13-3 regular season record, and was 9-1 after Billick took over as OC. But I'm sure you're right, that Thursday night game in Cincy made Billick a failure this year.
Look, we get it, you hate Billick and want him gone. You've mentioned it in just about every thread the past week. Give it a rest.
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The team had a 13-3 regular season record, and was 9-1 after Billick took over as OC. But I'm sure you're right, that Thursday night game in Cincy made Billick a failure this year.
Look, we get it, you hate Billick and want him gone. You've mentioned it in just about every thread the past week. Give it a rest.
And you've made it yoru business to hunt down every one of my posts and comment on them. So why don't YOU give it a rest?
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How anyone can point blame anywhere other than McNair is a little astounding to me. For the last 3 years Boller has been blamed for every possible thing wrong on this team, offensively and defensively. McNair plays a game akin to some of Boller's worst performances and some people are blaming the coaching?
In a game where McNair just had to squeeze out 16 points he puts up a horrible performance. Wasn't he supposed to be the veteran leader to win just this type of game? :187734:
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skaybaltimore
And you've made it yoru business to hunt down every one of my posts and comment on them. So why don't YOU give it a rest?
I don't know who you are confusing me with, but I can assure you that I have not hunted down every one of your posts and commented on them. Since they're pretty much all the same, there wouldn't be much point.
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How anyone can point blame anywhere other than McNair is a little astounding to me. For the last 3 years Boller has been blamed for every possible thing wrong on this team, offensively and defensively. McNair plays a game akin to some of Boller's worst performances and some people are blaming the coaching?
In a game where McNair just had to squeeze out 16 points he puts up a horrible performance. Wasn't he supposed to be the veteran leader to win just this type of game? :187734:
They BOTH sucked. But was McNair calling his own plays in the second half? If not, how can you NOT see that the onus falls on the person calling in the plays? The running game was FINALLY working in the first half. Jamal actually looked GREAT on some runs and on some short passes out of the backfield. So to get away from that success almost totally is whose fault, in your opinion?
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highwater
I don't know who you are confusing me with, but I can assure you that I have not hunted down every one of your posts and commented on them. Since they're pretty much all the same, there wouldn't be much point.
The title of this thread is: "REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game). What part of that are you unclear about? If you DON'T feel that Billick is responsible for coming up with a lousy game plan, then put up your points for what he did great in the game. If not, STFU when people point out what he DID do wrong.
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I tend to agree w/ SKAY and TL on who to blame for the loss. I've stated my reasons clearly all over this thread. I have said this for years now and I still believe it: The Ravens will NEVER win another SB w/ Billick as coach UNLESS he changes the "play not to lose" mentality. I think there are several other NFL coaches that would have won us that game...even trailing
9-3 at half.
Isn't one of the main reasons we brought in Steve McNair was for a situation like the end of the 1st half? Isn't a veteran QB, former MVP, made it to the Superbowl type of guy supposed to be able to lead a team on a scoring drive w/ 2 TOs left? That was the VERY DEFINITION of why we replaced Boller...for crucial spots like that where you have a chance to turn the momentum of the game.
What does Billick do....he makes NO attempt to score. I wouldn't want to play for a coach like that.
FM
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What does Billick do....he makes NO attempt to score. I wouldn't want to play for a coach like that.
FM
Once again, the key point being made is TRYING. No one is criticizing Billick JUST FOR THE LOSS ALONE. Losing happens, and most people, painful as it is, can accept that. It's the WAY we lost -- examples already noted abundantly in this thread and others -- that are being hurled back at BB, because that's where they came from. A perfect example being NOT trying to get at least a FG before the half, coupled with the fact that this is NOT the first time BB has done this -- IT'S PART OF HIS PHILOSOPHY, and while in the past Billick supporters said: "Well, but we WON THE GAME ANYWAY, DIDN'T WE? ENJOY THAT, AND STOP CRITICIZING BB", this time WE DIDN'T WIN, and his bonehead ineptitude at basic clock management skills, and inability to know when to TURN IT ON AND GO FOR IT is nauseating. And even MORE nauseating are the attempts to try to justify what he did.
He CRIPPLES our offense, and, looking back, he's ALWAYS done that. And that's why I've voiced my opinion that he needs to go. I wholeheartedly agree with FM that we will NOT win another SB with BB at the reigns of the offense. He has his shot to give full control of the offense over to RN -- without conditions -- and his control freak nature wouldn't allow it. I have the same feeling in the pit of my stomach now that I did after the first "three and out" series in the Indy game. ALOT of energy will be invested over the course of the next 7 months by a LOT of Ravens fans, only to be Billickballed/shot down in flames once again.
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