Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
> We were out coached in this one
This much I agree with.
I just think it's absurd after the season and seasons we've had with Billick to call him out as a bad coach, and complain about an offensive scheme that got us the 2d best record in the AFC this year. 2 Division championships, 1 SB championship, other wild card berths, most teams' fans would *love* to have a head coach with those accomplishments.
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Also obviously offensive execution was *so* poor, with bad passes and 4 turnovers, it makes it considerably more difficult to assess the quality of the game plan. If we are going to turn the ball over 4 times, the game plan doesn't make one bit of difference.
Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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skaybaltimore
It's moot at this point, since it's already been announced that he'll be back next season, but the call for Billick to be fired, as far as I'm concerned, is NOT just the result of Saturday's debacle -- that was merely the culmination of YEARS of having to put up with his stubborn arrogance, his misdirected overloyalty, his slow reaction to real time game situations, his abominable clock management, his inability to prepare the team for BIG GAMES, and, as has been stated already several times, his "play to not lose vs play to win" mentality. Now that Marty has shown his ability to abandon "Martyball", the new kid in town is now clearly BILLICKBALL. And unless one has an overwhelming desire to continually get f*cked up the ass, Billick should have been let go at the end of the season, IMO.
But he wasn't, and I accept that, although I don't like it, and I will go on record as saying I don't like it now -- before next season even starts, so it won't be a matter of jumping on or off any bandwagons. I didn't join here until near the end of this season -- but I've been saying this about Billick now for years -- this isn't any kneejerk reaction to Saturday's loss to the Colts. I want a coach who is going to PLAY TO WIN, not PLAY NOT TO LOSE. If the mental giant Festivus is tired of hearing it, I could care less. I'm tired of hearing his and PP's apologetics for this woefully mismanaged team of ours.
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Look at Skay.
Bringing up my name because I don't agree with his OPINION.
Awww, poor little Skay doesn't like when people don't agree with him, ON A MESSAGEBOARD.
If you could care less, then why do you continually post all over the place why you think Billick should be gone when he's not going anywhere.
We all get it. You want him gone.
Maybe you can talk about something else. Or at least not personally insult other board members like you whine about others doing.
PP
Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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purplepoe
Look at Skay.
Bringing up my name because I don't agree with his OPINION.
Awww, poor little Skay doesn't like when people don't agree with him, ON A MESSAGEBOARD.
If you could care less, then why do you continually post all over the place why you think Billick should be gone when he's not going anywhere.
We all get it. You want him gone.
Maybe you can talk about something else. Or at least not personally insult other board members like you whine about others doing.
PP
And your point is...?
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Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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skaybaltimore
And your point is...?
I think his point is that you can make a point without insulting board members who have a different opinion than your own -- how complicated is that?
Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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highwater
I think his point is that you can make a point without insulting board members who have a different opinion than your own -- how complicated is that?
Sounds pretty simple to me.
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Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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sailorsam
whom to blame for the loss?
1) McNair. made no plays, didn't look sharp, some pics.
2) O Line. average running holes, some protection breakdowns.
3) Jamal. has lost a step.
4) Coach Billick as OC. uninspired game plan, never got a rhythm.
or was the Indy defense that good?
plain and simple, we lost because we had no offense. the defense played solid enough. who would of thought that the mighty offense of the colts, and manning would not score a TD, and make 5 field goals :thumbdown:
Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
No - we lost because the OC called the wrong plays. Amore balanced attack in the 2nd half wins that game.
Totally gave up on the run in the 2nd half when we were only down by 6 - inexcusable.
Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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terpsnoone
No - we lost because the OC called the wrong plays. Amore balanced attack in the 2nd half wins that game.
Totally gave up on the run in the 2nd half when we were only down by 6 - inexcusable.
Well then...that won't happen again next year because we now have a new OC, so we WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!
(OH....wait a second...the new OC won't actually have the authority to call the offensive plays. "MEET THE NEW BOSS...SAME AS THE OLD BOSS".)
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Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
I can't believe some people here are calling out Jamal for his play in the game. When you average four yards a carry, you're getting it done in the NFL. But when you only get 13 carries, that's just wrong.
Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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Fletchterps
I can't believe some people here are calling out Jamal for his play in the game. When you average four yards a carry, you're getting it done in the NFL. But when you only get 13 carries, that's just wrong.
Fortunately, very few people are laying the blame on JL. He had probably one of his best games of the year -- at least in the first half. Then, he got very few touches after that. And I think most people understand that going AWAY from the run is what caused the problems for the offense.
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Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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skaybaltimore
And I think most people understand that going AWAY from the run is what caused the problems for the offense.
That, and 2 picks, and 2 fumbles. And inaccurate passing. Overall I agree with Tony Lombardi's report card, including both his assessment of McNair and Billick as OC.
Re: REASONS FOR THE LOSS (AKA, the Blame Game)
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festivus
That, and 2 picks, and 2 fumbles. And inaccurate passing. Overall I agree with Tony Lombardi's
report card, including both his assessment of McNair and Billick as OC.
Yep. Lombardi nailed it. :thumbup:
(And yet, reading his article, I think he gave the perfect definition of a "play not to lose" coach in Billick. So if you agree with that article, I still don't understand what it is about that "play not to lose" label that you don't get.)