Re: How Ex NFL'ers Go Broke
I have always been a person who tips at least 20% if service is good. You have to be flat out horrible for me to tip less than 10%. Rarely have I ever not left anything. Those people work hard for that money. I have never worked as a server, but I have been a cook, and I worked in bars for 6 years during college and after, bartenders and wait staff don't get much from the place they work.
As for feeling sorry for these guys, when they lose everything. I have empathy/sympathy for their situation, but I also don't feel bad for them. Even if they go broke, they got to do things and see things that most of us will never be privy to from a monetary standpoint. There are plenty of us "regular guys" that are in debt, and we find a way to make our lives work. They have to too.
Re: How Ex NFL'ers Go Broke
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HoustonRaven
Our old buddy Kyle Boller would pull this move often when he and Tara Reed were together.
Mad River used to have a receipt taped to their downstairs bar from him that was over $15k.
$15k at MAD RIVER? Now hat is absurd.
This $16k tab is at least in LA... $450 a bottle for Ciroq is abotu 50% more then I've seen anwhere in Baltimore. Aqua, Club X and many fo the other high -end Bottle service clubs pretty much topped out around $300 for top shelf bottles. DC area clubs typically in teh $350 range. Las Vegas was in the $500 range.
All of that info is botu 5years old, lol, Those days are in my past. And obviousl;y things liek Dom and Louis the 13th were above those limits, but I am speakign in teh ballpark fo Ciroq.
$15k at Mad River is completely insane. Thats well over 1000 drinks. That's not an expensive club at all.
Re: How Ex NFL'ers Go Broke
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AirFlacco
I thought it was 20%. That's what I've been paying - 18% if service isn't so hot. Nothing
if it's terrible.
15% went out years ago and I learned that over in the other forum and guys jumped
on me for paying 15%. I didn't know it went up to 20%. I paid more than than
last night because I eat at the same places every week and they know me so I pay
more.
I'll leave nothing if the service is really bad but I'll always tell them why.
I recall Steve Martin in one of his 80% movies(The Jerk, My Blue Sunday or A Story) speakign about tipping. Basically the gist was that if you were going to tip, it is best to OVER-TIP. If it's a place i frequent, and I desire top notch service(such as a bar ALWAYS IS) I generally top 25-33%. In the Baltimore bar scene after a few times, this will customarily cut yoru bar tab in half of what it should be, which is a win-win for you and the server, while a loser for the bar owner. Yo will be served ahead of the pretty girls righ on the rail fo the bar as wel.
Out of Town, I am closer to 20%.
I also ave a personal rule of no less the $1 per drink or shot, and also no less then $5 on any "tab" of any kind. If I sit down at a pizza shop with a waitress and my bill comes to $12, the waitress get's $5. Order Chineese and it's $17? Tip is $5. Generally I do not ask for coins back either, and that is added to whatever tip I decide to give.
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HoustonRaven
Rumor was he bought up a bunch of tabs from other people who were there.
Mad River isn't the same place it is today. When it was converted, it was more of a club then the bar / pub it is now.
I am most familiar with Mad River circa 2002-2010 ... not expensive.. not at all
Re: How Ex NFL'ers Go Broke
Maybe it's just me, but that 13% is a lot of money for a relatively small amount of effort.
RE: tipping, which means "To Insure Promptness" by the way, I usually do 15-20% based on the service. If service is bad, I will deduct accordingly. However, I like to shock and awe servers with 50% tips from time to time when they provide uniquely outstanding service. I also like to write to restaurants when I feel like they have a rock star or a stinker on staff.
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HoustonRaven
Having worked a bar in my early 20's, I can assure you servers and bartenders work their asses off. Because of that, 20% is my starting point but will adjust according to the level of service I receive.
If I did everything right and got a 13% tip, I'd be pissed and think the person is a cheapskate. I'd definitely remember the person and you'd get exactly 13% worth of service next time.
I'm not suggesting bar staff don't work hard, but they usually aren't serving up $7500 bottles of champagne now, are they. This instance can't be compared with the bar bill you and your buddies run up at Max's.