A lot of division on Arthur Brown. I don't think he's a first rounder and have him pretty firmly behind Ogletree and Minter. I also personally prefer Khaseem Greene but some may place Brown over him (I think they're similar prospects but Greene has a higher upside mentally.)
On tape, I think he's a great athlete who doesn't play with a lot of physicality. He is very much an east-west and not a north-south player, much preferring to read and react rather than to anticipate and attack--when he does try to attack a gap he often guesses wrong and gets out of position, but he makes up for it at times with speed. His coverage skills are better; he gets into his zone drop quickly and efficiently but I would never ask him to cover man to man.
I see a lot of Tavares Gooden in Arthur Brown and I fear he's already peaked and has no real NFL upside. People are comparing him to Lavonte David but David was a better prospect IMO who was WAY more productive and well-rounded in college, AND was even better in the pro game. I could be totally wrong but I'm not feeling the first-round buzz.
What various mockers think of the 4 top ILB's (Ogletree, Brown, Minter, Te'o):
Mocking the Draft- Fairburn has Brown going @ 26 to the Packers (and has the Ravens taking Te'o). Kadar also has Brown to the Pack with Ogletree to the Ravens. Their Big Board has Brown as the #15 player (Te'o is 29 and Ogletree #31).
CBS- Rang does not have Brown in the 1st round (Ogletree is #26 to the Pack). Brugler has Brown #26 to, guess who (Ravens get Minter). Kirwan also does not have Brown in round 1 with Ravens picking Minter. Prisco has Brown at 20 to the Bears. CBS' Big Board has Minter at 29, Ogletree at 38, Te'o at 39, and Brown at 40.
National Football Post (Lande) has Brown going at 21 to the Bengals. Their Big Board has Ogletree at 28, Brown at 39, Te'o at 46, Alonzo at 56, and Minter at 72! Not big Minter fans there...
Tony Pauline does not have a mock out yet but his Bog Board has Ogletree at 21, Minter at 28, Te'o at 40, and Brown at 44.
NFL.com- Both Matt Smith and Bucky Brooks have Ogletree at 19 to the Giants and and Brooks has Te'o to the Ravens while Matt Smith has us picking Minter. John Norris has Brown at 25 to the Vikes, with us taking Minter. Charles Davis has Ogletree at 28 to the Bronocs while the Ravens pick Te'o. Gil Brandt's Big Board has Ogletree at 19, Te'o at 20, Minter at 27 and Brown at 27. Alonzo is at 74. Brooks' Big Board has Ogletree at 14, Te'o at 27, Minter at 29 and Brown is not in his top 50.
I could go on but I think this is a representative sample of what mockers are thinking of the ILB's.
- Ogletree is at the moment a consensus 1st round pick and the highest rated ILB overall, but not unanimously. His off the field stuff is bogging him down.
- Brown is the lowest rated overall with notable exceptions. His is the most volatile draft stock. My guess is that we will see him rise somewhat after his pro day.
- Minter and Te'o are in the middle and are thought of as low 1st rounder or high second rounders.
Does this mean anything? Yeah: in the context of the whole draft there's a big chunk of players from the second half of the 1st round till at least the end of round 2 if not into round 3 that is judged fairly uniform in quality. Ogletree is thought of as being near the top of this group, especially when you consider that people think he has the most upside. The other three ILB's are pick your poison and this is why Ozzie is paid the big bucks: to differentiate between say an Ed Reed and a Lito Shepard who he had graded similarly in their draft.
It is doubtful that any of these ILB's land at #62 in the 2nd round.
Excellent write up!
We could use more of that around here (points finger at himself)
Impressive write up fellas, thank you and that's why I love it here. Seriously, you get way more info, and high opinions here. It's funny, I'm a die hard football fan, I built my life around the football calendar every year, and if I need to know anything about anybody in football, well you can find it here.
I like Brown a lot. Fellow members have convinced me Brown is a very good inside linebacker. I'm on board with him. I also like Greene too. I know a lot of mocks have teo or minter to us, but I would like Brown, Greene and even Riddick. Lets hope we can find another promising Raven linebacker in the draft.
Again great thread on Brown fellas!!!