Can you look into your crystal ball and tell me something else?
Manning and Brady agree with the OP and so does every offense in the NFL.
FOX kept Manning from throwing in the 4th qtr in Denver because he was scared of Reed. He didn't even trust Manning. So there's the
great Manning handing off because he was afraid of Ed.
So now there's a fan who wants to off Ed, just like all those guys who didn't like Joe.
Some people. Geesh.
If we hadn't gone all the way, I could see him looking to go to someone else that was more of a perceived contender but now, he has his ring and has legacy to finish writing and this close to the end, I can see him wanting to finish it in purple. People may be surprised what he stays here for.
Come on y'all. Don't let the Super Bowl Championship blind from how bad it was for you to see the state of Ed Reed's game this season. By Ed Reed's standards, it was bad. Missing tackles, dropping picks, peeking in the backfield, calling himself disguising and leaving wide open running lanes.
It was bad.
What do you expect at his age, man? He's still playing with a banged up neck. That's one reason
why he keeps hitting with his shoulders instead of tackling with his arms.
Even Ray has slipped from his prime time. Ed just mouths off sometimes but he's a Raven
and should retire a Raven, just like Shannan Sharpe retired as a Bronco.
And people forget about this:
Reed's interception off Kaepernick was his 9th career playoff INT tied for most with 3 others:
And with a bad neck. Not bad for a old banged up man.
But don't take their word for it. See for yourself, an old man in the SB. Looks like K was throwing to him all the way.
He's better old and banged up than most young and healthy safties. Brady stayed away from him too or tried to.
I can't say I disagree with what you and many say about Reed's ability to still play football. My concern is about his health and does he expose himself to really serious injury (not that he doesn't in "normal" health) if his neck/shoulder/whatever are at a point where he could potentially suffer from an RGIII type injury?
The OP's assertion that resigning Ed Reed will cost us players is ridiculous because he's seems to think that resigning him will be costly money wise. Two things here. Not signing Joe Flacco to a cap friendly deal will cost us players. Furthermore the market for Ed Reed will be nowhere near the $7 he made last year. I really think it's a little lower than that. If he agrees to a two year contract for 8-10M it's a no brainer for me personally. Ed Reed's physical limitations are well known but his leadership and film study far outweigh those physical limitations. I hope he comes back but our front office has shown that they are not afraid to cut long time fan favorites.
Ozzie has already gone on record saying the focus of this draft will be to focus the middle of the defense (i.e DTs, LBs, safeties).
I think the majority of fans would like to see Ed back, the FO and the coaching staff would like to see him back, and I think he will be back. He'll get a fair offer from Ozzie, one that fits the salary structure that is in place for this year. He may entertain other offers but I really don't think he's gonna get a big offer elsewhere.
big money = elsewhere
reasonable money (translation: Ray Lewis 3 years ago as a UFA) = keep him as a Raven
Reed at this point is a liability on the field. He makes some big plays, but if he's not picking off an overthrown pass, he is, very frankly, a worthless body on the field. I wouldn't particularly mind bringing him back for one or two more years at a very low price. But if there's even one young guy the Ravens don't sign because they're paying Reed instead, I think they're making a HUGE mistake.
a) have control over whether or not Manning does or doesn't pass,
b) was scared to pass with Peyton Manning who was one of two guys in serious considerations for MVP of the league this year and/or
c) was that scared because of Ed Reed
is quite simply not rational in any sense of the word.
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Ed Reed isn't the Reed of old, we all know that, and he can be upgraded eventually. But right now, cap implications have a good chance of not even enabling us to resign Ed Reed, let alone an upgrade. And a rookie coming in and starting from day one (especially when you're picking at 32) holds around an 80 % chance of being a significant downgrade to Reed of this year in his rookie season, and has a shot at even being a disaster. The best case is to try and get Reed re-signed for a 2/3 year deal that isn't ridiculous, and daft a mid round safety prospect, while using the higher round picks on LBs, Dline, and possibly Oline. Kenny Vaccoro and Matt Elam are the only players I'd consider in the first round, and I just can't seem them being there at 32, Mark Baron went in the top ten last year, and had significant coverage issues that Vaccoro doesn't have.
Reed's leadership cannot be overlooked, and I think the FO are going to pursue this a lot more than many would think, I don't think they like the idea of losing both their inspirational and most respected leaders all in one offseason. He has one more contract left in him.
Ed Reed will always be one of my favorite players. He is probably the greatest safety of all time. I have seen every game he played at M&T.
However, Father Time has caught up to him and his play on the field is not going to improve. I have always noticed with football players is that once they reach a certain age around 34 or 35, their play starts to slowly decline. Then, one day, it totally drops off and that is the end. Ray Lewis hit that wall the day of the Super Bowl, but that was fine. He announced his retirement and left a champion. Ed Reed wants to milk every last dime out of the NFL when he is clearly 2 steps behind Ray Lewis. I think this is going to end badly with Ed Reed going to another team. Let's face it, the Ravens are in mini rebuilding mode. Next year's team will not look anything like this year's team. I do not believe Flacco will take anything less than 20 million a year and 60 million guaranteed. The Ravens will gut the team to keep their franchise QB. Money will be tighter than ever and I don't see Ozzie investing in a 35 year old safety that can no longer tackle. Right player, right price does not equal Ed Reed anymore. I just wish he would have gone out with Ray Lewis and retired a champion.
Somebody was afraid of him. Their fans bitched because they ran in the 4th qtr and OT. Here's the great Manning who
can call his own plays more than anyone since Unitas and he's handing off. Fox played it safe
in the 4th QTR thinking he'd break our defense in OT and when Manning did throw in OT it was away from Reed
over the middle to Corey Graham who intercepted it and set up Tucker Time.
Manning had 3 turnovers including 2 interceptions and a fumble leading to scores and he wasn't even pressured
most of the day.
If Reed is finished, then Manning is too.
Yeah, waiting too long to get Flacco signed to a long-term deal will cost us more than whatever we do with Reed, but make no mistake: taking the sentimental approach of having Reed "retire a Raven" in some year other than 2013 is going to take up cap space that could have been used for someone else. Does Reed get $7m a year? That's Paul Kruger or releasing Anquan Boldin. $5m a year? That's Dannell Ellerbe or releasing Jacoby Jones. $3m a year? That's Vonta Leach right there. And let's not forget: next year is the last year of Oher's deal, and he's going to want at least some sort of decent contract for an OT. It's the last year for Boldin, Jacoby, Leach, if they remain with the team. It's the last year for Corey Graham, who many are counting on to replace Cary Williams. Dennis Pitta and Ed Dickson will be UFAs, as will Arthur Jones. And it's the next to last year for Torrey Smith, and the first one he's eligible to work towards an extension... say he has his breakout season, how much is he going to cost?
If you put Ed Reed on the books for 2-3 more years, IT WILL COST US PLAYERS. This is indisputable.
I hope he's back and retires a Raven. He can still play at a high level and is still one of the top safeties in the league. He can't wrap up anymore but he can still hit and his coverage and range is still very good. Hopefully him and his agent can work something out with the FO
“He’s pretty much ingrained permanently in my mind,” Brady said. “He’s such a playmaker for them, and he shows up in a lot of different spots.”
“He has such a great understanding of what offenses are doing,” Brady said. “He obviously studies hard; he’s a student of the game. He competes incredibly hard, and if you make a mistake, he really capitalizes.”
So before the third game of his worst season of his career, he doesn't say "I'm not going anywhere near him." That's not what I would call "evidence."
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Well, He wasn't afraid of Ed here, or um, kicking him in the nuts as he tried to tackle him.
But look at the defensive alignment before the snap. He's looking left to throw away from Reed but the guy is covered
so he runs and Reed comes way across to get in on the tackle before the karate act.
A pic is worth a thousand words they say.
Peyton Manning in December, 2012:
Regarding Reed, Manning said: "Ed Reed, in my opinion, is the best safety in the NFL and has been for this past decade. I could go on and on. He's got tremendous ball skills, tremendous range and (he is) a tremendous athlete."
Based on what some of the best quarterbacks in the game today say, I think he still affects the game planning of opposing offenses, but maybe that's just me.