There is almost nothing that offends me, so this is nothing new. Joe said retarded, where's the dead body?
Those cartoons were nothing compared to Stiller's movie but people laughed at MaGoo being blind and doing silly stuff. PC wasn't around in those days or not like today and disabled people were shoved aside. It's one thing for Joe to make a tongue-in-cheek comment he might even regret but quite another to deliberately get people laughing at someone in the movies and succeeding
but a few years ago they even made a Magoo movie that was totally stupid.
As for the N-word, BET uses it more than anyone and Jessie Jackson has pleaded with the black comedians
to stop it but they continue.
So to recap the words that can get you banned in this forum:
C-word - rhymes with punt.
R-word - retarded
L-word - libbies
C-word - connies
L-word - lefties (unless youre a Mod)
N-word - (unless you work for BET)
N-word - nazi (unless youre Pelosi)
H-word - homo (unless youre a Mod)
Feel free to add to the list.
Careful Trap. You are crossing the line
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Is calling a homosexual gay still PC?
Already covered. Yes, calling someone who is gay, gay, is fine.
Ahh missed it, thanks.
At the end of the day, the thing that pisses me off about political correctness more than anything else is that it's ridiculous in context of the rest of the world that I've seen. Go spend a few weeks in Afghanistan, where the raping of boys by grown men is a national pastime, corruption does not even exist as a concept, the police are smoking dope 24/7, and a large portion of the people take a dump on the floor in their own mud hut and wipe with their fingers... then come back and tell me that it's really a big deal if somebody uses the word 'retarded' in a certain context. We Americans are SO spoiled rotten...
1) Who are these PC police? Some people disagree with you about a social norm, that's pretty common. Your opinion is no more or less valid than theirs. I don't think I've seen *anyone* on this thread actually say that Flacco personally did anything super bad or needs to be punished, mostly just that it was embarrassing. This is akin to us arguing about whether he should chew with his mouth open while doing an ESPN interview and snacking.
2) Haven't been there, but it sounds like Afghanistan is a real shit-hole, what does that have to do with US social norms? I don't think anyone is pretending that this issue is on the scale of terrorism and child rape. If you're willing to do the US versus Afghanistan argument, you can argue against all sorts of things:
"Oh, did I spit in your food? Who cares, you should see Afghanistan!"
"What, you mad cause I stole your bike? You should see Afghanistan!"
"Sure that was a hit and run accident, but at least we're not in Afghanistan!"
"Aww, health insurance isn't covering that surgery you need? In Afghanistan you'd be happy to die of cancer!"
Just b/c we're way better than Afghanistan doesn't mean it's not worth discussing ways to keep making things even better.
The fact that this thread exists at all would indicate that somebody had a problem with it. Why is it embarrassing? I'm not embarassed. I see no reason that Flacco should be embarassed. He used a term in a context which used to be completely common, and is still common in my circles (though nowadays it's mostly 'fucktard'). Who cares? As I pointed out in my previous post, anyone whose feelings were hurt need only look in the mirror to figure out whose fault that is.
It has nothing to do with US social norms, except to illustrate that as a society, we lack perspective on things that are globally important. Lots of people in this country are interested in what Kim Kardashian is wearing to... wherever she goes. Meanwhile, most of the African continent lives under military dictators, most of Asia makes do on dollars a day (if they even have money in their area)... etc. i just find the things some people get bent about around here laughable... though to be sure, don't show the soles of your feet to an Afghan either.
Speaking as a support worker who works with people who have learning disabilities, I really don't see why people feel the need to have the r word in their lingo to throw around as an insult, and why they can't see why using it in a derogatory fashion may be insulting to people that have been victimised with that word is also beyond me. As someone said earlier in the thread, empathy chips not working. It's all fine because you're not in that world, and if it doesn't offend you why should it offend anyone else, right?
Let me just point out, for people who wanted to turn this into a left vs right issue...
My in-laws are huge Tea Party conservatives. And yeah, they are ready to condemn Flacco over it.
Now full disclosure, they ARE Redskins fans...I'm just pointing out, it's not "just liberals".
At this point, because Flacco made his coup-de-grace at Media Day and put out a more thorough statement of apology, I have no problem, because it was obviously a slip up and he noted his association with the Special Olympics. But there are people who apparently want to condemn him either way. And again, not just "the liberals"
The world is far more diverse than people falling into one of two sides of a world view.
I wouldn't care if Ronald Reagan came out said please don't say X it offends people, or if Obama said it's okay to say X regardless it's your right. I can say what I want when I want and so can anyone else.
Now again, my brother-in-law has Cerebral Palsy, so a lot of my position on the issue came from them and working with my brother-in-law, so I can see why it would upset them too, but a few people on here said they were in similar situations with a family member having a mental disability, and saw no issue with the word because the context was not intended to be derogatory.
That said, I've used the word, I've heard other people say retard. I don't care nor does it bother me that Joe said it. I just don't see the point in getting worked up or offended by someone using a word. What's the old saying "sticks and stones..."
The last point, of course, IS my opinion, which is why I said it. And trust me, I am far from "butthurt" over the realization that someone I do not know might have a questionable sense of care for his fellow man. If anything, you've acted like the "butthurt" one, screaming about the things you "don't give a shit" about and calling people "pussies."