Many can't wrap their head around that, but I know people who are similar to this, so I've seen it first hand.
IF Manti's story is true, I would bet the reason he fell for her, is him being a devout Mormon and not having sex before marriage he didn't have a real girlfriend because he might feel pressure to have sex and avoided a real relationship altogether. So instead he was desperate and believed everything with this girl.
Again, if you've never seen anyone like this it's hard to imagine, but I have personally seen people like this.
#1--- find me an interview where Manti HIMSELF says that he met her in person. Even if you can, that was his biggest offense, lying about meeting her to provide more legitimacy to his online relationship. I'm not saying it was right to do so, but I think it's a far more forgivable offense than to have created the entire hoax.
#2---The interviews where he talks about his "girlfriend" were two months before he even found out that she wasn't real. Again, he got a call from the supposedly dead girl a couple nights before the Heisman ceremony and, after realizing he had been caught in a hoax, he went to ND authorities.
You are choosing to believe basically Te'o and ND's statement of events exactly as they were promulgated. That's your prerogative, but I believe the evidence to support that notion is less credible and less voluminous than the evidence which suggests Te'o had at least SOME degree of knowledge of what was going on. That's the bottom line here.
This could all change if the report of investigation or other documentary evidence that ND's PI uncovered is revealed. But guess what? Here's another guarantee for you: it won't be, nor will anything else be revealed by ND or the Te'o family. They will issue brief statements, sit back, and decline to answer most questions, citing privacy concerns.
Look, I deal with duplicitous and deceitful people for a living. I'm just seeing a lot of behavioral patterns here that correlate to deception. I know how these kinds of things proceed. Te'o seems to be following the "admit to a lesser offense and beg forgiveness in hope of distracting attention from the unanswered questions" approach. I believe that he and his people think they can just deflect this if they spin it into a Catfish story. He will have ND's help in that respect and unless criminal activity occurred there's very little chance that any really credible source will stand up, challenge him, and win in the court of public opinion.
I'm not saying Te'o's version of the story is impossible. It's just less likely given what we know and can surmise at this point.
1) How many does it take? One or two?
2) It did not get high media attention until it was over
3) A facebook, twitter and email Hoax is hardly difficult to pull off
4) I can understand this one, but people desperate for a relationship are gullible to say the least.
I may be playing devils advocate just a bit too much her, but it seems, you're just trying to confirm what you believe.
BTW - I find it ironic a bunch of guys on the internet (whit thousands of post on this site) are debating if someone could fall for an internet relationship
A practiced and skillful deceiver like Te'o is not prone to be so easily deceived by others. So you mean to tell me that all the times Manti told his family he was meeting her in Hawaii, only for her not to show up, he never got concerned, nor did his family? All the times he interacted with her family (people obviously of varying ages, backgrounds, and personalities) he never noticed anything weird about their interactions? He never found it strange that even though she claimed (AND HE TOLD OTHERS) that she was in the hospital, no nurses ever came to check her blood pressure?
I mean, there are just STAGGERING leaps of faith you need to make to believe that Te'o was just merrily trotting along, being tricked by a MASSIVE web of lies and MASSIVE cast of characters, while ALL THE WHILE HE HIMSELF WAS MASTERFULLY MANIPULATING HIS ENTIRE WORLD TO ACCOUNT FOR HIS SHAME OVER AN ONLINE GIRLFRIEND.
So after you get through believing all of that I have a great tract of oceanfront territory in Nevada I'd love to sell to you.
Ah, and there's the rub. I guess you're a Notre Dame fan, then? I'm not a hater of that institution, but I am hesitant to accept their word at face value--especially after we saw another similar institution like PSU lie through their teeth to protect themselves and their stakeholders. I might be cynical, but not particularly so for ND.
not going to the hospital or funeral i would think negates the argument that hes was simply socially naive and in love with her but embarrassed about how they met, at least on some level. I would think the girl you tell your parents you want to or could see yourself marry would at least mean you see her whens shes sick or dead.
Im not saying its not possible i just think something is going on. Hes the one that brought this onto himself by lying in the first place.
The problem is... based on the information we have, it just seems to me to be a more likely scenario that Te'o had some knowledge of what was going on. It requires fewer leaps of faith and fewer gaps in logic.
And if you think Te'o and his girlfriend weren't subject to huge media scrutiny, you're wrong. How many major national media outlets carried the story of Te'o playing with a heavy heart in the wake of the deaths of two people very near and dear to him? It was literally EVERYWHERE. And yet none of those journalists thought to do their due diligence and make basic inquiries into the circumstances surrounding the girlfriend's death! (Nobody pulled an obit, nobody contacted the school to find out her major/extracurriculars/etc., nobody contacted any other schools, community organizations, etc.)
The only footnote to that... interestingly enough... Gene Wojciechowski of ESPN DID do his due diligence. He asked Te'o if he could talk to Lennay's family... Te'o claimed they had refused. He asked for pictures of Lennay from the family through Te'o... Te'o refused. He couldn't find anything about her at all through internet. Te'o was the one who ran around telling everyone in the media about this despite not having any hard proof of anything that had happened. (link to the Gene W. interview: http://espn.go.com/blog/notre-dame-f...-teo-interview)
And by the way... I have to reiterate that the cast of characters is pretty damn big here. Te'o made passing comments regarding Lennay's friends, several family members (including at least a mother, father, and an older sibling)... that's what I mean by "web of social media." ALL of them were texting, Tweeting, on Facebook, etc... you're talking about individual accounts for each of them and "actors" to get on the phone and pretend to be them since Te'o claimed he had talked to them. That's a really complex operation.
You can disagree with me as much as you like and I have no problem with that. This isn't a criminal matter and the burden of proof is not beyond reasonable doubt, only a preponderance of the evidence. I have worked in law enforcement and given sworn testimony on the witness stand many times over my career--would I testify to any of this? No, of course not! This is all just bullshitting. We're not talking about convicting this kid, only our opinions on what might have happened as we see it.