First, my "people get offended by dumb shit" is just that. People DO in fact get offended by, relatively, dumb shit. My definition of dumb shit in this thread would be what Michael Irvin said. Did anyone think that maybe he was joking around and trying to be funny? This isn't the first questionable thing he has said on air where he was trying to be funny. In that context, not that big of a deal. This isn't what Rob Parker said about RGIII a few weeks ago. Thus, why I say "who gives a damn what Irvin said". Because, really, who cares?
If you are so offended by my "judgemental" ( :rolleyes: ) and dismissive nature to what Michael Irvin said, then maybe the internet isn't for you pal. Stick with Lifetime TV.
As to the topic of this thread. What Irvin said, doesn't necessarily mean he's racist. The problem with what he said is he just labeled all his friends in Miami as racist.
Personally, I am not offended with what he said, but it's not okay he said it. The OP has a point, if a white guy said it he'd be fired. We'll never move on from racism as long as a double standard like this exist.
kind of like the difference between a woman calling a man a dick and a man calling a woman a cunt. both are the same thing technically. neither are really good, but ones certainly more accepted than the other.
For the record, I like Michael Irvin.
Let me be clear HKusp, the reason why I "don't care" and don't understand why you or anyone else would care is because it is Michael Effin Irvin. This isn't Obama or someone of actual importance saying questionable things on air. This is Michael Irvin. Frankly, I'm surprised he doesn't say more things like that. He isn't intelligent. The only reason he has a job is because of who he is and he brings color (no pun intended) commentary to talking about the NFL.
Tom Jackson, Tony Dungy, and even Keyshawn Johnson are all black men on sports TV and they bring a fair amount of knowledge and intellect to the table. They joke around, but they are aware that they are being viewed by millions of people while commenting on the NFL. Michael Strahan even could be added into this group. I think it would be more of a head-scratcher if one of those guys said something like that on TV because that isn't how they have historically acted. In fact, I'd argue that they probably never would say something along those lines because they actually care about being taken seriously. Michael Irvin, regardless of what he may say, obviously has no intentions of ever really being taken seriously. So, why be offended by all of the dumb that tumbles out of his mouth? Michael Irvin has been that way since he was on the Cowboys.
You have Dave Chappelle as your signature line right now. That guy has made fun of all races and made racist comments in public, on TV (comedy central, for instance), yet no one seems to get up in arms about that. Why? Because he's a comedian and in context, it isn't offensive.
There is a big difference between what Rob Parker said and what Michael Irvin said. What Parker said was hateful, judgmental, and flat out mean. What Irvin said was meant to be in jest and not be taken too seriously. Parker wanted to have his comments be taken seriously. There is a difference there. I'd hope that you can see that.
I'm not telling black people to "get over it", I'm telling them to "move beyond it" and "get out of their own way".
The common expression in MD is "pulling eachother down like Crabs in a pot" and it couldn't be much more right. People like Michael Irvin drag you down while people like RGIII are trying to pull you out. RGIII couldn't have been more right,stop looking at him and comparing him to black QB's, compare him to QB's... THe NAACP served it's point in history, and is now simply dragging the black man down. Affirmative action served it's point, and is now only dragging the black man down. It's time for everyoe to look beyondrace and into the "content of one's character" as the good doctor explained about 50 years ago. Only then will equal footing be achieved.
I thank you sir.
I remember watching a seminar of his where he was talking to a student body (I think it may have been Grambling or something) and he said something along the lines of he was disappointed in the black community - as a whole - because things like affirmative action, welfare, and other government subsidized funding won't actually help the black community. He said that eventually he hopes that black Americans will have enough confidence in themselves and their own abilities that they won't need hand outs.
He got boo'ed.
Never though Irvin was that funny anyway.