Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
These discussions of always bringing in an aging or retired vet thinking its a quick fix arent the answer. The new guys are the better choice to give them expierence and will probably as good or better then the injured older retired player.
Lincoln Kennedy did have a workout with the Bucs before the season started...even they didnt want him!
http://llnlb.us.publicus.com/apps/pb.../1009/SPORTS02
Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
I would be against bringing in an aging vet who hasn't played for two years or one who played but not very well . Now is the time to bite the bullet and see exactly what we have in all of these developmental players we have been feeding for a couple years. IMO this OL situation must be resolved next off season, as with the arrival of McNair the ability to blame its performance on poor quarterback play has evaporated, so work these young guys in and let them sink or swim. We'll know more what we have to work with before the draft.
Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
If we are going to win our second Superbowl in a row in January of 2008, that offwnsive line must be overhauled this coming offseason.
Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
You are sort of getting ahead of yourself there, Art, let's win one before we start the dynasty :laugh:
Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Tex Ritter
The OL needs some work but it certainly doesn't need a major overhaul. Sacks and turnovers by our QB are way down, and a lot of that is due to the huge upgrade at the QB position, not the OL playing that much better.
Yes, the OL does need a major overhaul. In spite of the "huge upgrade at the QB position" we have the 28th ranked offense after four games. 28th! The OL has a lot to do with that. We are obviously winning games because of our defense, which has been awesome, but they should be getting some help.
Orlando Brown and Lincoln Kennedy are definitely not the answer, but there needs to be some changes. Play the young guys. We liked Chester and Brown enough to draft them, let's play them.
Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Art-Florida
If we are going to win our second Superbowl in a row in January of 2008, that offwnsive line must be overhauled this coming offseason.
Oh, ye of little faith...that's a quote either from scriptures or an issue of 'Rolling Stone' from the 80s - I forget which.
Computer bulletin boards are 3/4 speculation (1\4 masturbation) anyway, do why not do it big?
Denver - going down!
Carolina - W'ell never play finah.
After that, we'll see...
Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Tex Ritter
You also mistakenly seem to give all the credit for winning to the defense, yet the defense is not producing crucial game winning drives, nor is has it caused the big decline in turnovers/ versus TD passes out of the QB position.
I have not given all the credit to the defense, but if I did I wouldn't be wrong. If not for McAlister's interception in the end zone in Cleveland, we would not have had a chance to see Stover kick a game-winning 52 yard field goal. If the defense hadn't shut out San Diego in the second half, we wouldn't have had a chance to see McNair throw a game-winning TD pass to Heap.
Read this carefully -- we are second in defense, 28th in offense. I am thrilled that we are 4-0, but it's largely because our defense has been lights out. The offense has to get better.
Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
Im not defending the offense, they obviously need to get better, but rankings and statistics can be deceiving. Total offense rank is based on one stat....total yards. Yes that means you move the ball, but doesnt mean you score. Or it means you are always backed up at your 10 and have to go 90 yds to score.
We are 28th in total yards...the NY Giants are ranked 2nd in offense and are 1-2 and in last place. The stat that wins games is total points scored....we are 11th.
Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ravensfan1996
The stat that wins games is total points scored....we are 11th.
I agree, but the defense and special teams has set up a lot of those scores, not the offense. That can't happen all year long. Maybe if we're lucky it will keep up, but I doubt it. We're off to a great start but it hasn't been because of the offense. They need to get better (and I think they will, btw).
Re: Lincoln Kennedy or Orlando Brown Anyone??
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Tex Ritter
Who cares what the offense is rated when we are 4-0? Again this isn't Fantasy Football League its the real-life NFL. I would agree with you if the team wasn't scoring points, but last time I checked they were pulling down over 20 per game. Sure the OL needs improvement but all teams have some area of weakness.
You also mistakenly seem to give all the credit for winning to the defense, yet the defense is not producing crucial game winning drives, nor is has it caused the big decline in turnovers/ versus TD passes out of the QB position. This offense is nothing like the 2000 TD drought offense until Dilfer took over, so again, I don't get all the complaining. Why don't you save it for when we actually lose some games?:hammer:
The only game I remember us scoring more than 20 points was the opener against the Bucs and if I recall about half of those points were, indeed, scored by the defense. It isn't the defenses job to "produce crucial game winning drives" that job belongs to the offense. At least the defense is making it possible for McNair to be the two minute hero. It does matter that our offense is ranked at 28, sooner or later such dismal offensive performance is going to start costing wins. This team cannot even run the ball anymore, the one thing we have always been able to do very well and that is directly related to offensive line performance ~ unless, of course, Jamal has fallen into another snit over someting.