Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
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Originally Posted by
purplepoe
You really wanna bring up road performances vs. Denver?
PP
Or road performances period?
Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
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Originally Posted by
Raveninwoodlawn
Or road performances period?
:thumbup:
PP
Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
Honestly, I think you have to play to your highest ceiling when you play offense, NOT the safest play.
This is why the Titans went with Vince Young over keeping McNair.
Why Grossman is still the starter in Chicago (and they're still in the playoffs)
Why Jay Cutler is the guy in Denver
Why Kurt Warner gets demoted in favor of Lineart.
The problem with Boller is that we tried to Dilfer-ize him. And he had a shit o-line when he was learning the ropes, with shit WRs and no Todd Heap.
But when I look at how the Bears handled Grossman, I got a lot of love there. Stick with your guy.
I think Boller can and should be the guy when you look at his last 8 or 9 games.
And I'm sure PP and the usuall suspects think I'm crazy.
But call me crazy, I'd rather seen Boller in against Indy, had Billick open it up, and have Boller throw 1 TD to 3 INTs. At least we would have gotten a TD on the board.
But, for that matter, Boller hasn't had that type of game in a while (Cleveland), and even then he put up points for us.
170 and 2 INTs just doesn't give me any reason to pull for McNair other than the fact that I'll be stuck watching him as our starter next year.
Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
McNair did make some idiotic mistakes that pretty much ended up costing us the game, but I'm not ready to throw him under the bus just yet. I mean, he did lead us to our best regular season record ever, as well as helped heal a lot of open wounds in the locker room.
His sole deep throw of the game was on the money, only the football gods didn't seem to be on our side Saturday (Clayton fumbles). Remember the year we won it all? Seemingly EVERY bounce of the football went our way! Against the Colts...Not so much.
No problem.
As a fanbase there's no adversity we can't overcome. I know that after enduring 12+ seasons of my life without an NFL franchise, having the Ravens make the playoffs and win an AFC North Title in 2006 ain't too shabby at all!
Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
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ClericBlackDave
And I'm sure PP and the usuall suspects think I'm crazy.
170 and 2 INTs just doesn't give me any reason to pull for McNair other than the fact that I'll be stuck watching him as our starter next year.
1. I don't think you're crazy. I just don't agree with you on Boller.
2. It's amazing that we go 13-3 (6-2 on the road) and people think we are stuck with McNair.
PP
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CBD, I think I agree with you....I think if we truly have an open competition next year we will all see that Boller is ready to at the very least beat out McNair. I think he has grown and maybe picked up on McNairs leadership style. Which is the only thing he could learn from him.
Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
Steve McNair led the team to a 13-3 record this year. If BB announced at the end of training camp next year that Kyle Boller is the team's starter, he and Kyle would have 1 Winning Drive all to themselves, because everyone - players, staff, coaches - would just leave.
Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
Some of you people need therapy.
13-4 season + AFC North Championship = End of the World?!!
Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
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RAVENOUS52
Some of you people need therapy.
13-4 season + AFC North Championship = End of the World?!!
Go figure....... :grbac:
Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
The bottom line is that there are a few people on this board that short of a Super Bowl or MVP like season from McNair were gonna take their shots after the season. They either had too high expectations...are absolutely convinced that Boller is the answer...or don't like the contract he signed.
The fact that even with McNair they didn't think we'd have the season we had doesn't matter.
I don't understand why you'd rather have an unknown season with a QB who does not have a good track record over going 13-4 and winning the division is beyond me. :grbac:
But whatever...people with objective common sense knew these threads were coming from these people should we fall short.
Sorry you got "stuck" watching the most productive passing offense we've had since 96 over the last 10 games. Man that really sucked ass...
Re: Why the McNair gravy train has peaked, and I'm off that bandwagon
No RIW. That's not it at all. It's the notion that Steve McNair won all 13 of those games by himself. Amazingly enough, Matt Stover, our defense, and for that matter Kyle Boller (who I think won the playoff clinching game IIRC) get absolutely no credit for this record by the way some on this forum sound. I believe THE RAVENS are responsible for our 13-3 record.
I'm personally sick of the whole McNair vs. Boller debate. And I will be saying such in an upcoming post I am working on. But I also remember both QB's being able to push that passing attack forward. And I remember BOTH Quarterbacks being sacked a whole lot less than QB's were getting sacked last year. And I remember a game winning kick in Cleveland. And I remember a game winning field goal block by Trevor Pryce as well.
Personally, I just want to see people get off this McNair was the only reason we're 13-3 shit, because it's not true. Beyond that, he did a great job this year despite a very rough start, and he'll be back next year.