Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
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StingerNLG
I still cannot wrap my head around how Alex Smith improves this football team. When we talk about wins and losses with Flacco, then the detractors turn instantly to "well look at his stats". Well Alex Smith statistically is a worse QB than Joe Flacco. The man threw 1 touchdown his rookie year. ONE. He's been benched multiple times, and was almost not a part of the 49'ers at all at one point.
I don't get it.
Alex Smith has also never endured a mid-atlantic winter. San Francisco isn't a tropical climate by any means, but Smith has never really played in outdoor stadiums like Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland in the dead of winter. As a matter of fact, I remember specifically looking this up last year prior to the Thanksgiving game when the Niners came to town. Say what you want, but it takes a special QB to be able to withstand outdoor football in the cold.
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
After having watched him for five seasons, my opinion is that Flacco is a QB with an elite arm and average to sub-par QB "IQ" (mobility in the pocket, leadership, ability to change play). He used to take care of the ball and that made him "near-elite." Now he is beginning to turn the ball over more frequently, and that definitely brings him back into the pack. The Ravens can't pay him elite money unless he really turns it up in the next few weeks.
One thing is for sure, he is definitely a QB who needs good protection and the Ravens will need to have the resources to fix that.
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
I think most of you are severely underestimating how much Flacco would get on the FA market from a team like the NYJ, Bills, Raiders, Chiefs, or Cards (just the first five off the top of my head)
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
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LukeDaniel
I think most of you are severely underestimating how much Flacco would get on the FA market from a team like the NYJ, Bills, Raiders, Chiefs, or Cards (just the first five off the top of my head)
They will offer way more than we can offer, which is why I'm terrified that the FO are going to use the franchise tag on him. It's going to be a rough year if it happens.
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
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The Excellector
Does this team stand a chance of competing without Joe Flacco?
That was going to be my exact response.
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
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The Excellector
Does this team stand a chance of competing without Joe Flacco?
With all possible scenarios on the table for 2013, probably not. BUT...the TEAM make-up can be improved without Joe Flacco and his $14M check.
Our "next franchise" QB (in 2014?) will be that better off.
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
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BigPlayReceiver
With all possible scenarios on the table for 2013, probably not. BUT...the TEAM make-up can be improved without Joe Flacco and his $14M check.
Our "next franchise" QB (in 2014?) will be that better off.
A bird in the hand...
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
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RavensRule21215
A bird in the hand...
How quickly some forget this guy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Boller
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
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Originally Posted by
BigPlayReceiver
With all possible scenarios on the table for 2013, probably not. BUT...the TEAM make-up can be improved without Joe Flacco and his $14M check.
Our "next franchise" QB (in 2014?) will be that better off.
Which is also a crap shoot.
The devil you know...
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
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wickedsolo
Which is also a crap shoot.
The devil you know...
Point being, this team can win with average play at the QB position, providing players come back healthy and we sign some good players and use some high round picks to fix the opine. Why pay through the nose for slightly above average, when you can get someone much cheaper for average play. A guy like Alex Smith is only going to be a stop gap before there comes a long a good draft filled with decent QB prospects, perhaps like this years draft which now has six (seven if you count Cousins as a starter after Sunday) rookies starting for their teams, three of whom look likely to lead their teams into the play offs.
Re: This team won't have a chance at competing if we pay Flacco big money
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leachisabeast
Point being, this team can win with average play at the QB position, providing players come back healthy and we sign some good players and use some high round picks to fix the opine. Why pay through the nose for slightly above average, when you can get someone much cheaper for average play. A guy like Alex Smith is only going to be a stop gap before there comes a long a good draft filled with decent QB prospects, perhaps like this years draft which now has six (seven if you count Cousins as a starter after Sunday) rookies starting for their teams, three of whom look likely to lead their teams into the play offs.
Sounds pretty risky too me with a 27 year old QB who's started every game and done enough to get his team into the playoffs every year he's been in the league...If there's 1 thing you can't do in the NFL it's cheap out at the QB position.
I understand your point, but I think your wholly and completely 100% wrong. Flacco's good enough to get it done (see 2011 AFCC) and it's looking like Ozzie's going to get him for a lot cheaper than any of us thought back in August.
Don't really want to see my team dump the (1) starting QB, (2) sign a stop-gap guy, and (3) hope for a new savior at some undetermined and unknown future time. Not a winning formula if you ask me.
