Gaining Knowledge from Ex Players -- Myth or Reality (from the "What Time is it?" thread)

I think make too much about former players giving information to their new team.

I know the Chargers are signing JJ's checks now, but do you think in his heart he's pulling for d-bags like Turner, Rivers and AJ Smith over his former team? I'm sure he'll go all out but I don't see him pulling out old playbooks to get one over on the Ravens when the Chargers season is over. McClain and Gaither seemed to harbor grudges but not sure how much intel they provide.

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Originally Posted by JoeCool5

They know tendencies, like what Joe does in the pocket after his first read breaks down, or how Rice runs, or how Torrey, Anquan and Co. run patterns. That's all I was trying to say. But if we lose, I agree with your last point about Rivers lighting us up and offense again shitting the bed on the road.

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Yeah...they can see all that watching game film.

iirc Gaither is injured reservist?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/charger...5269--nfl.html

more worried about JJ's play than his espionage.

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Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Yeah...they can see all that watching game film.

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Or they can recall what they saw in person during practices and games. Film isn't everything when it comes to scouting your ex-team.

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Originally Posted by JoeCool5

Or they can recall what they saw in person during practices and games. Film isn't everything when it comes to scouting your ex-team.

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JJ and Carr never played under Pees as DC so what can they offer there?

Gaither and McLain are two years removed from the team. Any info they can give they already gave last year.

This is a media creation and that's it. A coordinator will use 97% game film when scouting another team.

I am referring to what guys like JJ and Carr saw in practice against our offense regarding our offensive players' tendencies. The fact that they didn't play under Pees is irrelevant. I agree film is the go-to for studying an opponent, but ex-players also know their teammates' tendencies they can share in game planning. I am sure I am making too much of this, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

The biggest worry to me is not the ex-players....it's Norv Turner vs Cam. He should be able to read Cam like a book (since he runs Norv's offense basically) and we all know how Cam's ability to adjust is about as fast as molasses going uphill.

That last part hit the nail on the head. Cam's inability to make proper in-game adjustments is frustrating as hell. He might have to do that today considering the Chargers' run defense is pretty stout.

It's that inside knowledge that Franklin brings of the 2003 Ravens that's the real difference ;)

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Originally Posted by JoeCool5

Or they can recall what they saw in person during practices and games. Film isn't everything when it comes to scouting your ex-team.

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You have no idea how teams prepare.

Game film will tell you everything...everything you need to know. Plays, play call tendencies, player tendencies, everything.