Re: Ravens at the White House Stream
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Losac
It was a cool ceremony and regardless of politics, I imagine it must be a huge thrill to meet the POTUS. .
Sorry, you couldn't pay me enough to attend an event like this with the current administration. I'll leave it at that to stop from getting the thread moved, but no chance I shake that man's hand.
Re: Ravens at the White House Stream
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Originally Posted by
jonboy79
Sorry, you couldn't pay me enough to attend an event like this with the current administration. I'll leave it at that to stop from getting the thread moved, but no chance I shake that man's hand.
And that's precisely what's wrong with this country.
There was a time in this country when people from both sides of the fence would sit around and enjoy each others company. Politicians and citizens alike would put aside their political differences and simply be cool to one another.
The event wasn't political and it was a once in a lifetime chance to go to a place very few will ever see. I couldn't stand Clinton but I jumped at the chance to meet him and go to the White House.
As for Birk, I support his right to free speech but feel he missed out on an opportunity. Missing that opportunity is his right, too.
Re: Ravens at the White House Stream
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HoustonRaven
And that's precisely what's wrong with this country.
There was a time in this country when people from both sides of the fence would sit around and enjoy each others company. Politicians and citizens alike would put aside their political differences and simply be cool to one another.
The event wasn't political and it was a once in a lifetime chance to go to a place very few will ever see. I couldn't stand Clinton but I jumped at the chance to meet him and go to the White House.
As for Birk, I support his right to free speech but feel he missed out on an opportunity. Missing that opportunity is his right, too.
good post.
Re: Ravens at the White House Stream
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Originally Posted by
jonboy79
Sorry, you couldn't pay me enough to attend an event like this with the current administration. I'll leave it at that to stop from getting the thread moved, but no chance I shake that man's hand.
Me either.
And HR I agree with you to a point, but the reason I would not go with this administration is it's goal is not to advance it's agenda as it is more to squash the opposition (IRS targeting TEa Party groups anyone?).
I have friends that are staunch lefties, and we put things aside all the time tat we disagree on. I couldn't do that with someone I know does not do the same (read: Obama)
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Originally Posted by
NCRAVEN
Me either.
And HR I agree with you to a point, but the reason I would not go with this administration is it's goal is not to advance it's agenda as it is more to squash the opposition (IRS targeting TEa Party groups anyone?).
I have friends that are staunch lefties, and we put things aside all the time tat we disagree on. I couldn't do that with someone I know does not do the same (read: Obama)
And I find that to be a huge shame.
Re: Ravens at the White House Stream
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Originally Posted by
HoustonRaven
And I find that to be a huge shame.
I feel none taking this position. I doubt Birk does either.
Re: Ravens at the White House Stream
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Originally Posted by
NCRAVEN
I feel none taking this position. I doubt Birk does either.
You and Birk have differing opinions.
He's doing it to draw attention to a cause. Based on what you said, you're doing it out of spite because the other guys does it.
If someone I know does something I find wrong, it doesn't (or shouldn't) give me license to do the same.
An eye for an eye makes the world go blind.
Re: Ravens at the White House Stream
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Originally Posted by
HoustonRaven
And that's precisely what's wrong with this country.
There was a time in this country when people from both sides of the fence would sit around and enjoy each others company. Politicians and citizens alike would put aside their political differences and simply be cool to one another.
The event wasn't political and it was a once in a lifetime chance to go to a place very few will ever see. I couldn't stand Clinton but I jumped at the chance to meet him and go to the White House.
As for Birk, I support his right to free speech but feel he missed out on an opportunity. Missing that opportunity is his right, too.
Absolutely spot on, 100%
I completely stay away from these forums because the reality is that these and others like it really should be called "Bitch and complain about the other political party" forum...that's all that people post about.
Civil, common sense compromises? It just won't happen because way too many people take things so personal these days...and the politicians can never have good compromises because they don't want to chance being voted out of office.
Having 2 different political parties is a good thing. Honestly, this country should have a rivaling 3rd moderate party IMHO. But this country is too large, full of too many different people from different backgrounds with different values for so many to find themselves incapable of valuing new ideas to go along with old ideas...and that is a big problem.
Getting back to the White house visit...as I said before, I absolutely despised the previous admin, but I respect the office too much and it is too rare of an opportunity for me to see any logic in not going.
Trying to say going to the White House for a championship celebration is in any way an endorsement of the administration is an absolute and complete joke. Birk has every right to choose to not go, but I have every right to laugh and call him childish. Newsflash to Birk and any other athlete that see's going as an endorsement...WHOEVER WINS A CHAMPIONSHIP GOES TO SEE THE PRESIDENT...no matter who is in office at the time you won. No team or player has ever gotten to choose which president or administration he wants to see on his visit. This visit was no more politically charged than a visit to Bush.
That goes both ways.
Re: Ravens at the White House Stream
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Originally Posted by
Raveninwoodlawn
Getting back to the White house visit...as I said before, I absolutely despised the previous admin, but I respect the office too much and it is too rare of an opportunity for me to see any logic in not going.
Agreed.
It's about respect of the office, not about the man (or woman one day) who occupies the office.
I cannot stand our current President politically, but if Obama could call me up tomorrow, wanting to hang out in the Oval Office and I'd be there in two seconds.
That's not an endorsement of him or his policies and if the topic of politics came up, he'd get an ear full from me.
The office is larger than any of us or the President himself.