So when you play a bad defense, it's just as hard to play a good defense for a QB?
That must explain why statistically QB's don't do well against the top defenses in the league, and why defensive rankings even exists....
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So you admit that Joe is better than Matt Ryan then right? Because its been illustrated on this board that when Joe and Matt have played top five Ds, Joe has SIGNIFICANTLY better stats.
And Matt Ryan is currently being talked as a top QB.
And thus Joe is one as well.
Or does "different defenses" not always count?
That 31st ranked defense sure showed up to play that day. Vince Wilfork was unstoppable and the rest of their front 7 was on Flacco all night long.
The Ravens D this year hasn't been very good, but they sure looked like a top ranked D against the Giants last weekend, wouldn't you say? Any given Sunday man.
I think I am going to need a slide rule if I am going to keep up the monumental movement of the proverbial goal posts in this thread and this takes the cake ....
So what you're really saying (but now knowing it) that this is a matter of opinion and perspective. I see that now. But lets not then twist and mince words to fit YOUR opinion in this incredibly twisted narrative.
Every football person on the planet, who are far more versed in everything football, would look at that game and say Joe out played Brady. And after that game, his praise as such was universal. You do understand it's a generalized term, right?
It's only the vocal few here, under Herculean efforts, are so desperate to cling to their incredibly narrow narrative that they're resorting to misrepresenting history in a very feeble attempt to make a point.
.... and it should be noted I think Joe is average at best.
They are ranked 13th in total defense believe it or not. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/2012/opp.htm
Wow. You're quite the civil debater aren't you?
Well, since I still don't understand your point I'll merely point out that Marino, though in the position to win the big one once, failed in both circumstances. Dilfer, when he got his shot, made the most of it. I'm not sure why you think any of the other examples you cite matter, though again, as I said, I was confused by your original statement, and am more confused now. Perhaps, if it's possible, you could explain your meaning in actual sentences vice examples without context, and also perhaps without calling me idiotic? Else, I've got better things to do...
So you admit that Joe played pretty damn good even though their D shut down Rice. If their front 7 are pretty good...and stuffed the run all night long (to the tune of something like 2.8 ypc)...and their front 7 was pretty good at getting to Flacco...but Flacco still did really well considering all that...why are you even chiming in on such a ridiculous notion that Flacco struggles when defenses make the Ravens offense 1-dimensional?
#1 all defenses are schemed to make an opposing offense 1 dimensional.
#2 all QB's CAN struggle (can being the key word here) when defenses make their offense 1-dimensional.