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fantasy football has skewed the view of the NFL in a lot of ways. I'll take an ugly win and like it
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big fantasy numbers =/= wins in the NFL
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Very good ASB. Fantasy football and Madden (among other things) has ruined a generation of fan's perception of what a "good" QB stat line should like. To me biggest stats for a QB are completion percentage, 3rd down percentage and TD to INT ratio. IMO Joe has been very good in at least 2 of those 3 categories.
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Last season, quarterbacks who threw for 300 or more yards in a game had a combined record of 47-49
I'm personally boggled by this stat. I always knew that huge passing games are fairly overrated, but I had no idea just how little correlation their is between 300 yard games and winning and losing.
I think if more people understood just how little a QBs yardage mattered when determining how likely it is that his team won, we'd have a lot less complaining about Flacco's sub 200 yard (but TWO TD ZERO INT) game last week.
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There really isn't anything misleading about it. Teams that are very behind throw; they also throw a lot of times against prevent defenses. This is much like the stat about winning and rushing 25+ times.
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I'm personally boggled by this stat. I always knew that huge passing games are fairly overrated, but I had no idea just how little correlation their is between 300 yard games and winning and losing.
I think if more people understood just how little a QBs yardage mattered when determining how likely it is that his team won, we'd have a lot less complaining about Flacco's sub 200 yard (but TWO TD ZERO INT) game last week.
I am not boggled by it at all. Try to find out the record of 300+ yard passers in the 1980s, I bet it is closer to the Mendoza line than .500. If anything the record is surprisingly good, imo.
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I'm personally boggled by this stat. I always knew that huge passing games are fairly overrated, but I had no idea just how little correlation their is between 300 yard games and winning and losing.
I think if more people understood just how little a QBs yardage mattered when determining how likely it is that his team won, we'd have a lot less complaining about Flacco's sub 200 yard (but TWO TD ZERO INT) game last week.
Its simple... I almost cant see a great QB in today's NFL with a Great Defense. You're gonna be on the field a lot. People are gonna throw on you.
That's an interesting Stat, but its pretty easy to see why that stat exist. I mean the 3 highest passers this year had the 3 worst defenses. I would definitely take a running team with a Quarterback that makes plays when asked than a team that passes the ball 40 times a game. Defense i think will always defeat Offense. Its just psychology, if you get hit hard enough times you get timid. You can change the rules, but you cant change Mentality.
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I'm on the fence about this whole thing. I always stated my disdain for the amount press and HOF recognition Aikman and Bradshaw got. I constantly said that they did not have HOF production nor HOF talent, but rather had HOF sized luck. I still feel that way, but I guess the picture gets a bit more muddled since you could say the same things about Flacco.
If Flacco wins 2 Super Bowls in the next 8 years, is he going to be a HOFer too? Goodness knows he's been far better in his first four seasons than either of the two "Game manager" Canton QBs have been. I have a sense that no matter what Flacco does, his disposition will always leave him receiving less credit than he truly deserves.
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Speaking of totally frivolous stats:
Here's one:
Int-to-win ratio of all NFL QBs over their first four seasons.
Best ratio of all time......Joe Flacco 46INT-44 Wins (1.045)
2nd best ratio of all-time.....Matt Ryan 46 INT-43 wins (1.069)
Others:
Tom Brady 38-34 (1.12)
McNabb 38-31 (1.22)
McNair 28-20 (1.40)
Marino 67-41 (1.63)
Elway 65-38 (1.71)
Montana 32-18 (1.77)
Brees 38-21 (1.81)
Aikman 60-27 (2.22)
Manning 81-32 (2.53)
Simms 42-14 (3.0)
Puts things in perspective a bit doesn't it?
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I don't want a STAT QB. I want a WINNING QB.
Good thing for us up here, we have a QB that is both. :thumbup:
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Not this weekend you won't.